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View Poll Results: Do you like Crossovers?
Yes, can't wait for more 12 54.55%
I don't hate them, but they'e not special either 8 36.36%
Not really, they're kinda lame 2 9.09%
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[General Discussion] Do you like Crossdressing?
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 04:52 AM Local time: Aug 24, 2008, 09:52 AM #1 of 29
At the end, story isn't so much the issue to me such as the gameplay. Which is why Namco x Capcom was balls and even though they tried to work in the story, I don't give a crap about it.
It always amuses me the way they try to come out with some story that justifies those sort of fan-service crossovers. I've seen people talking to the Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe devs and they say how they've come up with a story that explains why these two sets of characters are fighting. I'd have much more respect anyone making a fan-service crossover if they didn't bother trying to explain it, or just made a very self-mocking story that knowingly admitted "Hey we did this because we figured it'd make you buy the game, and it's fucking cool".

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 05:14 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 10:14 AM #2 of 29
I wish I could have found a copy of MvC2 before it got sold out and rare.
I'm pretty sure I've got a copy of that on the Dreamcast. One of the handful of games I bought for the system (since Sega sent me a load of them free), and pretty entertaining if memory serves.

Personally I wish more would get released that were Japan only releases like Namco X Capcom.
Hopefully if stuff like this arrives on the PS3, PSP and DS, since they're region free it will at least be easy to import stuff. Admittedly not all that helpful unless there's an English language option, or it's easy enough to figure without knowing Japanese, but it opens up the option at least.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 09:12 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 02:12 PM #3 of 29
I'd love to see that day too Acer, but it's not going to be for a while yet, I bet.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 26, 2008, 09:50 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 02:50 PM #4 of 29
Those stipulations you place on certain genres and titles because of a history of perception are hypocritical when you talk about how progressive and growing you want video games to be.
Oh please, at what point did I suggest the crossover fan-service aspect had anything to do with the title or the genre?

I apologise for saying all fighter storylines are 'retarded', I don't wish to suggest that they aren't enjoyable, a lot of them are. However, when boiled down to it I can't think of a single fighter that has a storyline that isn't silly in some way. I love the stories of Street Fighter and the original Soul Caliburs (things now do seem just a touch more convoluted than necessary), but they are daft.

My point about crossovers that are more out of fan-service is that they don't really need to justify a 'why', they're great because they exist, I find the horrible attempts to explain why two (or more) worlds have come together often betrays the stories of the originals. The Star Wars characters in SCIV are a great example of that. The game tries to explain why they're there, but it's idiotic, and I don't care. They're there because it's fucking Darth Vader and Yoda, and it's cool. Please don't try to explain to me why Yoda is here. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself very well, but I don't mean to dismiss the stories in fighting games (or any other genre), just lame attempts at explanation in crossovers.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 10:00 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 03:00 PM #5 of 29
Well a) taking it out of context is doing a bang-up job of misrepresenting my words, and b) I explained the 'retarded' comment above, I like fighter stories, they're just a little daft. The whole rest of that quoted comment is to do with fan-service corssovers.

Let me try quoting the whole thing and chopping out the irrelevant bit you're getting hung up on:
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It always amuses me the way they try to come out with some story that justifies those sort of fan-service crossovers. I've seen people talking to the Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe devs and they say how they've come up with a story that explains why these two sets of characters are fighting. I'd have much more respect if they didn't bother trying to explain it, or just made a very self-mocking story that knowingly admitted "Hey we did this because we figured it'd make you buy the game".


I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 26, 2008, 10:18 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 03:18 PM #6 of 29
OK, how many times precisely am I going to have to explain and apologise for poorly wording myself. I've said above that I didn't mean what you have clearly (and mistakenly) read into my words, but here you are quoting it again and shoving it down my throat. Want to be a bigger arsehole over this?

Once again. I apologise, I was criticising fan-service crossovers only. Nothing to do with genre or title. If that wasn't clear, I apologise for not fulling reviewing my words in the first place, because no one in the history of the Internet has ever posted something quickly that didn't come across as 100% meant.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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