[Movie] Heroes

All right, I'm hooked. And to think I almost missed out...I never watch NBC anymore, but thankfully my family had the first two episodes on the DVR, so I caught up and watched the new episode last night.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by BlueMikey

Is it just me, or is it odd that, while the artist is supposed to paint things that happen in the future, the comic that Hiro got while he was in New York contained events that actually happened in the past?

Clearly he hadn't just drawn it. It takes time to publish and the issue also could've been on sale for a few weeks.

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About the Claire thing....

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I was under the impression that her dad had taken her to his lab, what with her chest opened up like that and everything. It didn't strike me as something a coroner would do in that case...I would know, I watch all the crime dramas. XD Oh yeah, and that "mysterious" black guy in the bar was just one of Syler's henchmen probably (with powers of course). DL is a Hero.

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The last episode was a good one. I think I've said that about every episode. XD I like the theories going around.

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I agree that there's a parallel between Peter and Sylar, but such is often the case with the main hero and villain. To me, Peter is the anti-Sylar. Peter borrows powers, Sylar steals them. They're the same, but different.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Shonos

But Hiro doesn't know this because he just got back and wasn't changed along with the timeline.

I completely disagree. Future Hiro was in the future when he stabbed Sylar, which is all that matters. Beyond that, to think that he wouldn't be effected by the changes because he wasn't in the future "when they happened" shows a total lack of understanding of how this brand of time travel works. Honestly, if this is what the creators intended, I quit. Well, probably not. XD

I think the only logical conclusion we can draw is that Peter uses Candice's power to make Hiro (and everyone else) think he's Sylar. They're not just going to blame Sylar, they're going to frame him.

Originally Posted by Drex

Agreed.

Linderman and Mrs. Petrelli obviously think they're doing something for the good of the future - the only way I'll completely buy that take is if Mrs. Petrelli can see the future - which would explain why Peter had the vision he did, and where he got the power from. Sylar's past comes into focus and we see that his mom (Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors, that was weird) shaped a lot of what he became. He's still a sicko, though, and I'm interested to see what they do with him.

Hadn't Peter met Isaac before? o_O Granted, I didn't even remember Molly from way back when, but I'm pretty sure the two had met before Peter's first vision. Anyway, I totally thought that was Audrey, but I wasn't sure until you said it. Must've been the hair.

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Originally Posted by quazi

My assumption had always been that Peter causes the explosion in an attempt to kill Sylar. In an act of desperation he decides that the sacrifice of thousands of New Yorkers is worth ensuring that Sylar is destroyed. That's not to say that's even close to what happens, but it seems unlikely that Peter would frame Sylar for the explosion.

Dammit, they're going to pull some crap like, "Hiro caused the change, and since he must've been aware of it, he couldn't be affected by it." So let's examine that.

The instant Hiro makes the change, his timeline branches off. Another iteration of Hiro must exist our main time line (this is present Hiro). He does not become bastard future Hiro; they are completely separate entities. So where is the real future Hiro? Maybe he exists--the question is, does the timeline in the loft ("string theory") reflect the changes? We assume that it does, because it's just been sitting there in the future. Someone must've made it that way, that person being the real Hiro.

OMG, I'm just spit-balling now, could the reason that nothing crazy happened when Hiro met himself be that it wasn't himself but bastard future Hiro? Then even though bastard future Hiro is dead, future Hiro is still alive! HOLY SHIT! Jesus, that makes his death incredibly appropriate.

All right, screw my other theory, this one is way better (including your thoughts on Peter).

Originally Posted by Drex

It seems like seeing the future in vision and painting the future are distinctly different, though. I could be wrong, but it seems separate to me.

I didn't think of that, excellent point. It would be so badass if Mama Petrelli could actually see the future.

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No, it was affected, with the exception of future Hiro. Claire was alive, Peter was the bomb, etc. Future Hiro was from a different timeline; he was never visited by himself. The sad fact for future Hiro is that you can't change your past. Technically he could've found the other future Hiro, killed him, and taken his place...but he was killed instead. And I think it's moot anyway, because the instant Hiro returned from the future, even that timeline was cut off.

At this point I doubt they'll ever feel the need to explain though. It'll never make perfect sense.

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All I can say is that George Takei is awesome.

Do you think there was any significance to the younger eyes reflected in his sword when he held it up? I wonder if he's been alive for a really long time.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Are the spoiler tags necessary? Oh well...

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Maybe "the bomb" was sort of like Midas from Front Mission 3 (i.e. environment-friendly). The only reason I even had that in mind is that my buddy put on a Discovery special on atomic weaponry after the 24 finale but before I went home and watched Heroes. Doesn't the EMP have something to do with how high it goes off? If it were high enough, it shouldn't be a problem. Damn, I wish I had been paying more attention to the special. XD

Crash, at first glance I could've sworn it was George in the Samurai getup. But then I slowed it down (DVR <3) and I wasn't convinced. But I'll bet anything that the eyes under that helmet were the same reflected in George's sword during the previous episode. I'm totally sold on the longevity thing now. Being alive for that long would explain his skill, knowledge, and influence.

I'm interested in the powers of the older characters more than ever, and it looks like they'll play a bigger part in Volume 2. I'm especially intrigued by Peter's vision of Simone's father.

I don't think it's particularly likely, especially given his limited role in the bastard future, but might the Hatian be the one Molly can't find, the one that can see her when she looks for him?

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Originally Posted by Skexis

The Peter flying thing bothered me too. Maybe it was just that not exploding took all his concentration, so that if he tried to do two things at once, he would be bound to go off.

I'm sure that's what it was (at least it's what I told my dad when he brought it up).

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