[Movie] Star Trek (2009)

Trailer is gone.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yeah I just caught it on the tube.

Honestly, it's a trailer. There isn't much reason to jump to the conclusion -- like you did -- that the film will be poorly shot or edited based on what's presented here.

To me, there wasn't anything I saw that made me think, "This doesn't look like an attempt to take something old and make it new." It's a movie that's trying to appeal to today's audience, the younger audience, and that's what the trailer presented. Frankly, so far there doesn't seem to be any attempt to say, "This story is about James Kirk," and that's what's most disappointing. The originals were all about Kirk and Spock and McCoy and the chemistry those three had, and there's nothing in that trailer to suggest anything but Spock and Kirk were not friendly to being with.

So far, it's "James Kirk was a bad kid, he went into Starfleet to get some structure, Spock-ships flying-explosions-phasers-boobs-ahahaha he said something funny-scary space creature-atmosphere-end of trailer." If they're trying to improve what excitement people have about the movie, they've failed to do it to me.

How ya doing, buddy?

I own all of them, remember? $22 for all of them? Forgot that story?

I thought you were complaining mostly about the editing or the cinematography, and that's what I was referring to in that statement.

So, in a nutshell:

LeHah (in nerdy voice): HAY GUYZ THE NEW STAR TREK MOVIE LOOKS LIKE SHIT BASED ON THIS TWO MINUTE TRAILER *sniffs back nasal drip* WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK
Me: Uh, it's just a trailer.
LeHah (in nerdy voice): FUCK YOU DOPEFISH YOU'RE WRONG, YOU'RE THE DUMBEST PERSON ON THESE BOARDS AND THAT MEANS YOU'RE WRONG

I AM LEHAH, MASTER OF ARGUMENTS

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by LeHah

Start with the first show and just work your way up. Be sure to ignore the internet along the way - Enterprise is excellent and DS9 is a brilliant back-hand commentary toward Roddenberry's idea of utopia.

What do you think of Voyager?

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This will probably sound dumb to LeHah some but the HD trailer improves my opinion of the movie somewhat. I still want to see more character development, but apparently (from reading about the movie online) some of my fears about the story between Spock and Kirk will be assuaged.

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So the movie's been premiered and the reviews are starting to come in. The word is good so far, character development being the main point of praise. I'll be going this weekend...who else is excited?

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Originally Posted by GB

Simon Pegg's performance just makes me miss James Doohan, though.

That's a bad sign...

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So, standing on its own merits I think I'll give it a 9/10. It was a very entertaining movie despite its problems (which I offer in the spoiler) and I will look forward to the sequel(s, which is pretty much a given).

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

Impression:

Would it have been that hard to write a sequel without completely invalidating just about the entire Star Trek universe (except for Enterprise)? When Amanda died and Vulcan blew up, I kept expecting some time travel mumbo-jumbo to put everything back the way it was supposed to be, but instead they blow up the Romulan ship and "The End". At least Captain Pike doesn't end in a beeping chair for the rest of his life (at least not yet).

Spoiler:

This was my main disappointment with the movie, aside from U-whore-a the Cling-on. It creates the possibility of this paradox, ASSUMING nothing else about the timeline changes:

• tra-la-la Spock gives his katra to McCoy, then dies (ST2)
• oops, Vulcan is gone, so where can they hold their ceremony?
• Spock can't make promise to Romulans to help save Romulus
• Nero has no vendetta against Spock in the first place, so he doesn't destroy Vulcan
• Spoiler:

  

Even then, IF Spock's katra gets returned to him but on some other planet, yadda yadda yadda, don't you think Spock OF ALL PEOPLE would have the brains to keep Romulus from being destroyed in the future again?

Unless, from some reason, he enjoys more the timeline that results from Romulus and Vulcan being gone. Which would be hard to grasp.

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Originally Posted by Skexis

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Well, the idea with an alternate timeline is that it occurs beside the universe we know and love, so as soon as Nero went back in time, he entered universe B as opposed to universe A he had been living in. It's the Back to the Future explanation, where time is not linear, but radial.

Spoiler:

Well, that's ONE theory, though that's the worst possible theory in my mind. I'm not thrilled with the idea of an entire 40-plus-year timeline being wiped out because Paramount wanted to make some more money off this franchise.

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Originally Posted by Sousuke

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...Wasn't there a gigantic black hole left above Earth? That's kind of a dealbreaker for me. Unless of course the warpcore exploding somehow took care of that... but I don't see how. Either way, it wasn't really explained.

Also. Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy as Spock and Spock' were awesome.

Spoiler:

The drill got started working, then Spock shot it off. After that, I'm assuming...again with the assuming...that Nero's ship is far away enough that this black hole and the warp-core destruction occur far away from Earth. I forget if there was that much distance between the ship and Earth, though...

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Originally Posted by LeHah

Spoiler:

Why does the asian guy come with a foldable katana? I'm sure theres some Asian social groups out there vaugely offended by this.

Spoiler:

The actor himself said he was concerned about an Korean-American portraying a Japanese-American. If Asians don't care about that, they probably won't be worried about trifles like assuming an Asian guy knows some sort of martial arts.

(Also, I giggled at the thought of Sulu knowing karate. Thanks Futurama.)

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Originally Posted by Grail

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So if I understand this statement correctly, you are not thrilled with the idea that this movie went ahead and, instead of tarnishing the original story, the original Star Trek universe by trying to create some backstory to the original Captain Kirk and probably pissing off hundreds of thousands of Trekkies, Paramount instead came up with a plausible, but highly unlikely scenario so that they could preserve the Original Star Trek Universe while at the same time giving people unfamiliar with Star Trek a chance to jump in and see what all the hub bub is about?

I saw this yesterday, and I enjoyed it. I have only seen a handful of original Trek episodes and only watched a few of the movies and yet I could still, from a casual viewers standpoint, see the original cast channeled through this movie. This, of course, makes me the worst kind of scum in a lot of trekkies eyes, but so be it.

Don't take this as an insult Dopefish, but the kind of thinking that says 'Oh they just threw away 40 years of story' is the kind of closed mindedness and disrespect to the original series that you see in any sort of fanboyism whenever someone tries something new with a franchise. The original series is NOT going to disappear in the real world. You can still find the original Star Trek anywhere. This movie is NOT going to erase everyone's mind of what the original Star Trek was, and if anything, could sweep in a higher interest from outside sources to the original series.

But, I know how some fanboyism goes. Trekkies see Star Trek as their own little world, their safe place, and they don't want outsiders coming in, or messing around with it. It's understandable, but childish and selfish.

Spoiler:

I really don't think I'm being the sort of person who's dead-set against this brave new world J.J. Abrams has made for us. Otherwise, I wouldn't have given the movie a 9/10 and I'd probably be dissed off the board after some über-nerdy tirade bashing every little plot point and making Sprout and LeHah's little bitch-fest seem like two cats standing in place, swatting at each other for a minute. Long story short, I like how Skexis put it and after sleeping on it I can't be bothered with the situation.

Originally Posted by LeHah

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(Also - what was with Scotty being "hungry" all the time? Are they attempting to supplant the idea that Scotty isn't a drunk anymore? :\)

Spoiler:

Define "all the time". I only got the impression from the first meeting that he was hungry a lot.

Besides, how else is he going to become the portly Scotty we all know and love?

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Originally Posted by LeHah

Well, the TOS series had him constantly drinking. In fact, thats how he defeated someone who hijacked the Enterprise once. So this whole other approach seemed weird and a little glib to me? Not that they can't change things but changing an alcholic to a "hurr hurr hurr foods" slant seems dumb.

I didn't watch much of TOS so I missed this plot point.

Who's to say that Scotty won't become a drunkard in the sequel(s) anyway? Seems like a nit that doesn't necessarily have to be picked at this time.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

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