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Virginia Tech Shooting: At least 33 Fatalities
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Old Apr 16, 2007, 12:42 PM #1 of 191
From what I'm hearing on CNN and by putting 2 and 2 together, it was most likely a student.

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Old Apr 16, 2007, 12:58 PM #2 of 191
I'm curious about a couple things.
  • The timeline. I didn't hear about this shooting, which started at 7:15, until about an hour ago. How did this news not get out sooner?
  • 22 dead, 29 wounded according to CNN right now...why do I get the feeling that the news networks don't have the correct info on this?


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Old Apr 16, 2007, 06:51 PM #3 of 191
http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-te...mes-252702.php

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Old Apr 17, 2007, 10:34 AM #4 of 191
Somehow I would not be stunned if this kid played Counter-Strike in his spare time.

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Old Apr 17, 2007, 02:20 PM #5 of 191
Racism won't be a consideration. The victims were as diverse as the college. Young, old, American, Asian, black, etc.

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Old Apr 17, 2007, 05:37 PM #6 of 191
Think Thompson can tie Starcraft to a school shooting?
World of Warcraft has guns in it...

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 09:24 AM #7 of 191
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Some thoughts:
  • I wonder if Cho knew that the police would apprehend a patsy, allowing him to continue on with his killing spree?
  • If Cho took both weapons with him to the second shooting scene, how did the police come to the conclusion that the first incident was the result domestic dispute?
  • At 10:52, almost a full hour after the shootings ended, campus buildings were locked down. Unless I'm missing some bit of info (like, say, whether or not the first building locked down after the police first arrived on the scene), this seems to be a huge failure by campus and local police.
  • It took VT's "leadership team" a full hour to send out an e-mail concerning the first shooting, and the second shooting happened 4 minutes afterwards. How long would it take you to to batch-send an e-mail telling all your friends your dog just died? In fact, this "leadership team" was pretty bad at communication in general.

I understand the argument that you can't predict or stop these things from happening, but, seriously. If he was that creepy a guy (which they should've figured from the outset if he didn't talk in class, stalked women, etc.) they should've pegged him a whole lot sooner. Even then, how hard is it to lock a building down when a shooting occurs AT ALL? What, are shootings at colleges really that common that you can just act like if you don't have a suspect arrested and charged with the crime but you've detained someone you consider a "person of interest", you've properly protected everyone from further danger? I like how no one instantly thought of Cho when they asked themselves in their minds, "Who do we know that's CRAZY enough to do this?" Noooo, first they think about the people who have obvious access to guns. Like possessing a gun immediately places everyone on the top of the list of suspects in every gun-related crime ever. The director of security at VT should be forced to resign.

In my mind, if there's a shooting at a school...be it a high-prestige, Division 1-A college or a urban high school, you do the same thing: put a halt to classes, lock down the crime scene, and let everyone know ASAP what happened.

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 10:37 AM #8 of 191
Personally I wouldn't assume that the situation is safe until you've got a suspect you're certain is the culprit in custody, but that's just me. Maybe that's just hindsight talking, but that ("oh, we've got someone we believe is a 'person of interest' in this shooting, there's no way there's possibly someone else out there who is the actual suspect") sounds like an excuse and is the result of poor investigation.

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