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Grawl
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Old Aug 18, 2006, 08:40 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2006, 03:40 AM #1 of 13
Value PC?

My eyes saw this nice ad:

For 549 Euros excl (654 Euros incl):

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
1GB DDR RAM
200GB S-ATA HDD
DVD-rewriter (+/- RW) DL
ATI Radeon X550 PCI-e
Cardreader 11-in-1 (pretty much irrelevant to me, althought not quite)
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (I'm using Home edition for a while, it's fine with me and as long as it doesn't go bother me about installing it when I boot it, it's fine - which it is)
1 Year of Warranty and pick-up service

It seems like a pretty great deal to me. I have my own 19" LCD, I have my own keyboard, I have my own mouse, I have my own speakers. I could possibly insert my old Soundblaster Live! 5.1 card if the sound sucks on-board.

The thing seems awefully nice. The brand is Fujitsu-Siemens Scaleo P.

My current (notebook) sytem is:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
512MB RAM
40GB HD (+ 250GB USB 2.0 External, but I'll plug that straight into my new PC if it gets here)
DVD-rewriter (+/-) SL
ATI Mobility 9700 64MB Shared
Cardreader liek-8-in-1-or-so
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP2

The problem is that it tends to hang for a few seconds on quite a few games. Too annoying for me to handle.

My broken PC is even worse (because the AGP slot and video-card and broken):

AMD Athlon Sempron 3200+
512MB RAM
200+ GB HDD IDE
DVD-rewriter (+/-) SL (DL?)
(broken) ATI 9600 PRO 256MB
Microsoft Windows XP Pr0 Edition

And for the American people - 654 Euros equals 839 hard-cash American Dollars. Yeeeeeehaaaah! I just want to make sure if the thing would be good enough to handle mediocore games. I don't mind playing Doom 3 without shadows or WoW without AA set to 16x. Just make sure it runs WoW better than my notebook and I'm a happy camper.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Last edited by Grawl; Aug 18, 2006 at 08:44 PM.
Grawl
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Old Aug 19, 2006, 12:18 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2006, 07:18 PM #2 of 13
I know how to make my own system, but I'll get this system from a company that's only for accessible for companies and is significant cheaper than normal stores.

Also, that's not an answer to my question.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Aug 19, 2006, 06:47 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2006, 01:47 AM #3 of 13
I doubt the X550 can be worse than my current 9700.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 20, 2006, 11:09 AM Local time: Aug 20, 2006, 06:09 PM #4 of 13
Originally Posted by Dayvon
Believe it will be VERY comparable, in fact nearly identical... Check the links

Mobility 9700
* Offering up to a 30% MHz boost over its predecessor
* Supports Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0
* Pixel and Vertex Shaders
* Quad rendering & dual vertex engines
* Full precision floating point with full performance
* 0.13 micron GPU featuring Low-K process technology
* Fastest 3D engine speed
* Low power operation
* Support for AGP 8X


Radeon X550
* 64-bit and 128-bit memory interface supporting 64MB or 128MB DDR1 memory configurations
* Four extreme parallel 3D rendering pixel pipelines
* Two programmable vertex shader pipelines
* PCI Express® x16 lane native support
* Full Microsoft® DirectX® 9 support

Note that they have the same amount of pixel pipes and vertex pipes. The 550 might be a touch faster in terms of on-board memory throughput, but you aren't going to notice that. It does have more "video" type optimizations, but again, very little you could notice.

The X550, though it sounds like it'd be a good card, is VERY far from being a decent graphics card. I'd recommend strongly that if you buy that system you at least upgrade to a Nvidia 7600 if you want to have a good gaming experience with current release games.
However, AGP is limited to 8x, right? So how much difference does the PCI-e aspect make?

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Old Aug 25, 2006, 07:54 PM Local time: Aug 26, 2006, 02:54 AM #5 of 13
x1600PRO/XT is around 130 to 140 dollars over here (didn't convert it, just guessing). That'd be a nice deal?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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