[News] Disney acquires Marvel? Somebody got X-Men in my Wonderland!

Originally Posted by Sousuke

How do you feel about this? There's more news to come, obviously, but for now, it sounds... interesting, at the very least.

Anyone who reacts badly to this knows nothing of Marvel. This is by all accounts a good thing, and absolutely no different than DC seeking fiscal shelter under Warner Bros some time back.

Marvel is not known for good management. Their public stock shit the bed in a huge way when they ended up ballooning - basically, they spent more than they had, borrowed against their underling companies and then ended up with few profits. Lather, rinse, repeat, - and then they filed for bankruptcy in the mid1990s.

Then you had people like Jim Shooter attempting illegal market control.

Then you had Marvel's notorious "positive-only PR" campaign (where they'd only print "good" mail or positive letters in their mailbags) and a lot of legal entanglements over owner's rights. The situation with Howard The Duck alone would turn your brain into liquid shit.

And did no one notice that Disney bought the airing rights to all those Marvel/Sunbow cartoons YEARS ago? This is obviously something thats been in the works for some time.

Them being bought out by Disney is a sign that they understand they cannot exist by themselves anymore. Better this than them vanishing from the world. Will this change anything? Probably nothing you or I will ever see.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Yushiro

There is some good news to all of this, however. NO MORE FOX RUINING MARVEL MOVIES.

This is typical dumbassery from the internet. Stow it with the Browncoat bullshit and the 9/11 conspiracy ideas, please.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Yushiro

That has to be the most senseless post I have ever read, and being on Gamingforce, that's saying alot. Please tell me how you get "browncoat 9/11 conspiracy theories" out of me saying 20th Century Fox makes shitty Marvel movies? Did you really love X-3 and Daredevil that much? I suppose watching Elektra enough times would make anyone a crazy douchebag, really.

You're the one that requires an explanation but *I'm* the idiot. Sigh, alright, I'll bite.

1.) If you're going to use quote blocks, do it right and actually quote me. You took what I said and turned it into something I *didn't* say by removing words. If you're going to do that, either use elipsis or if you're really fancy, you can use the proper latin system of (sic) though thats best saved for larger portions and not simply words.

2.) You took the word browncoat and went from my capitalizing its first letter - marking it as a proper noun - to making it lower case - which now makes it an nonsensical adjective because of your improper editing. Don't do that again, you make yourself out to be a horse-fucking, knuckle-dragger from Prauge named Boris.

3.) Browncoat is the term used for fans of Firefly/Serenity, the show created by Joss Whedon. Browncoats are a notoriously loud and ill-understanding type of person in that they complain fervently that FOX canceled Firefly for reasons that don't actually exist. They claim that...

a.) FOX didn't back the show properly
b.) FOX didn't like the show
c.) FOX didn't know what to do with the show

Now there may be an argument for C, though thats not the point of this entry. However, people who claim A and B (which across the strata that Browncoats exist in) are complete fucking idiots to the Nth degree. FOX produced the show in the first place, which means that they obviously *did* like it, and they did back the show properly in that they went as far as to move it to different time slots in an effort to save it from cancellation.

And - this is a big one, so pull up your pampers - the important thing that fans don't get is that FOX went out of its way to keep the show alive. How? They ordered an extra show (which costs FOX money, genius) when the pilot episode didn't suit their tastes. They wanted something in media res, which is really the way to go with that kind of show (this episode was "The Train Job") and delayed airing the original pilot ("Serenity" I think it was called) till further down the line. Fans got an extra episode that would not have otherwise existed and yet they bitch that FOX doesn't care.

This is the exact same shovel-mouthed internet fucktard stick-a-snapple-bottle-up-your-dilated-asshole back-asswards logic that you performed just now. FOX created something and promoted it - a TV show, a movie, whatever - and here you get all HOW DARE THEY NOT MAKE IT FOR MY PERSONAL TASTES GLOB GLOB GLOB I ENJOY SUCKING OTHER MEN'S PENISES BECAUSE JIZZ IS MY FAVORITE MEAL. So don't get angry that I properly colored your statement as ignorant if it actually is.

Short Version: I called your statement "a Browncoat's" because all Browncoats don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Ever.

4.) There are two kinds of 9/11 conspiracy theorists:

a.) Charlie Sheen
b.) Everyone else, and they're all assholes

The problem with these hand jobbing blowhard know-nothing types is that they're so convinced that SO-CALLED PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH is the evil mastermind of everything horrible done in the last eight years that they forget the only part of it that matters: People fucking died. So pardon me if I don't fucking care to hear about how an airplane couldn't have brought the towers down or how much gold-pressed latinum there was in the basement instead of in Fort Knox. People who have a brain and are functioning, thoughtful human beings don't consider that type of crazy fucking shit and in the exact same way - no one gives a fucking shit-stained bed what unconvincing stupidity you have in your head that FOX somehow produces movies to fail. What are you, one of those kids who use to drool in class and then go to the bathroom and punch the stall walls out of internal anger because you couldn't stop touching your semi-erect penis for Sarah Sinclair sitting next to you? The fact the movies exist in the first place show that they want to make a product that sells and that they're interested in the property. You don't like it? Good for you. People fifty years from now will be watching those movies and you'll have maggots writhing around in your skull because you'll be dead from when your daddy strangled you with a dishtowel while fucking you up the ass with his work buddies.

FOX makes movies to make a profit, not to ruin your self-absorbed dickhead notion that you deserve some modern cinematic masterpiece about your pulp character. Could you get anymore white, middle class and suburban? Do you drive a SAAB? Did you "experiment" in college? Everything you said in that little paragraph smacks of dumb Internet entitlement, so pardon me if I don't fucking cotton to people who suck themselves off in front of everyone else.

You follow? You picking up what I'm puttin down?

Don't ask me to explain anything to you ever again.

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Originally Posted by Yushiro

Oh, only 2 from Fox, and only 1 of those being any good.

When you cite emperical data and then dismiss it from the statement because of your own personal bias, you just fell on your own sword to spite me. So thank you, you just prevented me from replying to you ever again.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

When I saw X-Men 3 and Spiderman 3 I seriously thought they ripped the scripts off fanfiction.net.

In his usual polite and sincere way, Raimi addresses the plot problems in the audio commentary.

Originally, the script involved Sandman and The Vulture escaping from prison together. They had even gone so far as to cast Ben Kingsley as The Vulture.

And Peter Parker's fall from grace wasn't the result of the symbiote, it was the "sin of pride" as Raimi puts it.

Then Marvel suddenly dictated that Venom HAD to be in the movie.

That meant paying off Ben Kingsley and quickly trying to incorporate Venom into the story. Raimi felt they never had enough time to make the changes work.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

Marvel really needs to learn when to butt the fuck out. I mean introducing 3 villains in one movie. Go back to writing comic books Marvel you fucktards.

Ehhhh.

The problem is that Marvel rarely knows what to do with its properties *ever*. Its certainly not limited to movies.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

What about action figures? Please tell me about their action figures!!!

...Do you really want to go there? I can go into why the original Toybiz Ice Man figure was $150 for a long time...

FELIPE NO

This picture above is the second generation Ice Man figure. You can tell because of the blue plastic used. Same mold, different colored plastic.

The original was a frosted white, like those $5 glassware sets you can get at Ikea. When you put him in the fridge, he'd get blue icicles on various points on his body. It was a pretty neat effect - except the cold made the plastic EXTREMELY brittle and most of them broke very easily. It also didn't help that for reasons unknown to me they were already hard to find, there was something like one of him for every one or two store cases, so your odds of finding it was about one in eighty per store on the day they put up their figures.

Right out of the gate, in the midst of the 1990s comic book boom, they were going for good money. About $200 to $250 if you read Wizard comics at the time.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I'll say it: Dark Knight is an overrated film.

The best that can be said about the people who made The Dark Knight is that they no longer understand whatever the fuck the subject matter is. There is no emotional content in the film, you don't attach yourself to any of the main characters because you're not *suppose* to be able to unless you're one type of sociopath or another (and if you are, I want nothing to do with you) and yet people across the globe felt like the story had something to say that they agreed with. What there was plenty of was self-involved masturbation over the Bush administration to the point where the anarchist bent quickly reformed into a sly agreement with totalitarianism. I have little doubt that in twenty years, the film will be looked back on and my generation will be looked down on for thinking so highly of what is basically a three digit million dollar Triumph des Willens to announce the arrival of the 21st century.

The entire movie is - and by osmosis, the people who enjoy it and celebrate it - an obnoxious level of willful, flag-waving ignorance that I suspected Todd Strasser to come walking out to inform everyone that they were now card carrying members of a new fascist regime. You people are the future of America and you lather your imaginations with a lame-duck quality of nihilism because you think it's cool.

You people should be nuked until you glow.

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

To be fair really none of the major studios have done their overall best to make an engaging, interesting and close to the mark comic book adaptation.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The single problem with the Phantom is the problem with Indiana Jones 4 - the audience that would enjoy it no longer exists and the people that watch it now are inherently ignorant of its qualities.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

There was a lot of shit wrong with IJ4, I don't think the primary reason was catering to the wrong audience.

Well, theres a lot wrong with all the movies. The problem with people who dislike IJ4 is that almost no one dislikes it for the reasons that actually exist. These are the jerkoffs that would hate Last Crusade if it came out today because it wasnt as serious and dark as Temple Of Doom. Crystal Skull gets a LOT right, more than it gets wrong (though, admittedly, theres some shit that makes me shake my head a little), its just that people don't want to fucking think for themselves.

...And now we're on a huge tangent about movies.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

it was born out of George Lucas's ASS.

He just produced it and gave some ideas for the story. He didn't direct or write it... so how can he be responsible in the ways everyone tries to make him? Easy: He's not. We certainly don't go around saying "Hey! George Lucas certainly made Akira Kurosawa's Kagemusha great!" (He produced the fucking thing, people). So why do people continue to say this crap? Because they're idiots.

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation

I didn't say Ticket sales = quality, I was saying it was one factor among others which indicated that people liked the movie.

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I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Big Gay Chulo

Ha ha, are you implying there LeHah that studios ought to be making films about comic book characters for the art rather than to make a ton of cash?

I think the moment someone attempts to make a comic book movie for the sake of "art", they need to be removed from the director's chair.

Oh, wait, Watchmen. Nevermind.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Jessykins

And look how THAT turned out.

Yes. Like the gangrape scene from I Spit On Your Grave.

How ya doing, buddy?