[Multiplatform] Left 4 STOP THROWING PIPE BOMBS AT THE TANKS

Today I found out Im very bad at Versus. Part of it is the awkwardness of things like finding a place to spawn and the rest is really just people NEVER trying to coordinate shit, like Brady said.

Playing as survivors, I almost made it to the end of the hospital by myself because my teammates wanted to stick around and kill more zombies and ended up being knocked off the map by the Tank. Its like DUH.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I was up till 4 am trying to beat a campaign on Expert. We could get to the house at the end of the cornfield but the Tanks kept acting serious types of fucking retarded.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Lesson Learned: Never try and hide in the safe room if a Tank spawns in the beginning on Expert. He'll smash through the door and come right at you.

(If anyone has any suggestions about this, let me know? Me and Pla and some of his buddies tried again this week to no avail.)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Everything I've read about other people succeeding at Expert suggests slow & steady is the way

I've found that the best way to survive is a "thinning of the herd" thing. If someone gets vomited on, they need to run as far away from the group as possible and let themselves die, to help increase the chance of at least ONE PERSON making it instead of having the whole group having to protect the person.

Also - something I noticed about climbing tanks: Maybe it was the game gliching out, but if you shoot their hands, do they let go? I was watching one climb up onto the car carrier at the beginning of the fourth campaign and it kept falling and getting up every time the guy on top shot at its hands?

How ya doing, buddy?

Plarom and I boosted for about three and a half hours last night. Did the patch fuck up the "Man Versus Tank" achievement? One of our players killed two tanks singlehandedly on versus and didn't get the achievement either time...

I was speaking idiomatically.

I tried that trick several times and it didn't work. Then one day I hopped on the minigun and just went at it and dropped the sonuvabitch.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well, just as long as it works, you know? You had better luck than me at it.

FELIPE NO

I found out two things about the Lighthouse map last night.

1.) Mo0 screams like Ned Flanders. He also has a habit of shooting piles of gas canisters next to him, lighting the entire area on fire, and then asks who did that and why.

2.) Fortifying yourself at the top of the tower works really well, as long as you have at least one other member there too. You bring all the gas tanks up to the base and chuck them out as you need them. You also have the pipe bombs at your feet, so you can hold off the regular zombies pretty easily. When thats all done, you climb up to the actual light and theres a mess of molotovs up there to keep you going.

The only serious problem I've had is Tanks knocking me clear off the building and into the lake. Its happened more than once (including being the last one left, with 70 health and a shitload of ammo, blowing up more people than at the end of the last Rambo movie) and its a serious load of crap when it happens.

Also: Perhaps this is a Xbox only glitch - but has anyone noticed that when someone standing next to you gets pounced on by a Hunter or grabbed by a Smoker, you get knocked back in slow-motion? Everything else runs fine - but you're just stumbling at slow speed? It really pisses me off since its obviously not suppose to work that way.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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I've found the top of the lighthouse to be shitty since if someone gets pounced by a hunter the knockback on you can actually knock you off the ledge.

While this hasn't happened to me yet - I found the whole thing of having two people ontop works, since the horde splits its attention to where-ever the other two players are, and if one of the guys on the roof gets pounced on, the other can knock the Hunter off or whatever. Again, this is just from one night of playing, I'm still looking for some exploits.

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Best spot we found was sitting on top of the big gas tanks in the room where you activate the horde.

That IS a really good spot - the problem is you can only fit one or two people on it. I was surprised as hell to see the horde come busting through the brick wall next to the shelves though.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Taco

I think the top of the lighthouse is a horrible place because of how the game can mix up the 4 specialists it spawns at once. It's very possible for you to get 2 or even 3 smokers at a time, and if two people get smokered off the top of the lighthouse it all goes to hell rather quickly.

I must be way more trigger happy than the rest of you because I've never come across 2 or 3 smokers at a time.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Tentacle Rapist

So if I were to rent or buy this, would you faggots play with me?

Absolutely. The game becomes fresh when you introduce new players and show them the ropes.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Me and Plarom survived for crazy long, just the two of us against the other four on Versus. We cut through that shit like fuckin Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Yes, but by definition everyone here (except for the macfags) already has a computer, whereas not all of us has a 360.

Having a computer that runs the internet does not mean it can run L4D well.

If anything, its cheaper to buy a XBox 360 than an additional computer because theres some people who are still stuck in 1992 and waiting for TIE Fighter and Gex to come out.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Paco did fine. Versus is a bitch - I have to re-learn everything when I play it.

If anyone is down for more tonight, you know how to reach me.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Also - the part with the Tank wiping everyone out in the alley with the dumpster was *hysterical*.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Pangalin

A 20GB 360 is $250.

LOGIC FAULT: Xbox Arcade + 152 Meg Memory Card = $140. http://www.consumerdepot.com/product...referer=google

Also - people who care about PC Gaming are stuck in the 1990s. Its a dead world that is kept afloat by the minimal RTS and MMP market. Remember when PC games were ported to consoles? Now its the other way around - you're outdated, Pang. Accept the fact the world has passed by your niche market.

No one cares about specs anymore because no one wants to bother putting it together. Everyone wants a magic box that works every time you turn it on and doesn't require worrying about if the newest games are going to run with optiminal, recommended or minimal requirements.

The problem is that for whatever reason the hard truth is that PC gaming *is* in a decline. No amount of console versus PC argument changes the fact that the market for PC games has been reduced significantly in the last five years - and that developers are increasingly shying away from PC projects because they've lost a lot of money on them. It's not just a harsh personal criticism -- it's just what's actually happening.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Pangalin

152 MB?

I would have a tough time finding an HD that small, yeah.

Sorry, I swapped 152. Its suppose to read 512, which is perfectly fine for storage if you're going to play L4D and make a profile and all that noise.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Next time don't waste my time with an economic comparison if you're just going to fall back on your quasi-religious belief that a platform everyone uses every day is "dead".

Hurr hurr hurr.

You're ignoring tons of dynamics of the market today. Certain games (MMOs, more complex simulations, some casual games) have a better chance of success on the PC. Other games (racing, sports, shooters, party games, adventure games) do better on consoles today. You can point to odd exceptions here and there - baselessly, at that, but the numbers are what they are. Looking at EA, which strongly supports as many platforms as possible, PC sales are down to about 15% the size of the console market. PC sales declined 20% last year, and the main three console game sales increased 50% compared to the prior year.

It's all pretty meaningless if you have an eight-core PC with four gigs of RAM and a graphics card that can push 12 jiggatexels/second, because what are you going to do with it in 2009? Run Flight Simulator X at a higher resolution? Run World of Warcraft or Sims 3 at a higher frame rate? PC gaming and console gaming really only has a small token area of overlap anymore. They're not mutually exclusive; I have a computer that cost me $2,500 four years ago thats still mid-level quality now with the 3.2 GHz processor and giant fucking video card that cost more than the PC I had before - but I (and most others) mainly just use them to post pictures to Facebook and update Chocojournal and use Photoshop. When I want to play a game, I'd much rather do it sitting on my couch in front of my 58" screen with giant stereo system and talking shit to Plarom and Paco while you and Sass and Dopefish play on Steam with... who? I mean, we had eight GFF people running on the same game yesterday - where were YOU three?

Long story short because of your internet attention span: every big budget game today is going to be a console game -- because consoles make up *so* much more of the market now than they did ten and twenty years ago. If you're going to spend $20 million on a video game in 2009 then it's a sure bet that it's either an MMO or a cross-platform title - and that its somehow the next Half-Life 2.

Everything you have is internet angst, Pang. Leave it to 1998 when we'd be impressed.

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We are not going to fuck this thread up with a retarded circle jerk PC versus console fuckshit argument.

Whoops, sorry, was typing when you posted. I've said my bit. Done.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Tails

So now I can play! However if LeHah sends me an invite I will decline it like the fist of the north star because that dude is some kind of ultra nigger and I cannot be seen with those types of people.

JUST YOU WAIT. Friendly fire is always on in L4D. I'll feed your ass to them angry zombie mutherfuckers!

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I'm always down for big-time L4D action. Hit me up whenever - I'm using crazy 3 day weekends lately.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Is there any way to hook a keyboard and mouse up to a 360 for FPS games?

The old Madkat USB Keyboard that was made for my PS2 works fine with my Xbox 360

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I like the fact everyone was all "Remember when we were in the alleyway and the Tank took everyone out with the dumpster?" and then it happened *again*?

Also, that we left Tails on the roof to die and he didn't say anything the whole time; he just logged off.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Hey, if anyone wants a spot filled with maximum gay, you can do the end of Death Toll from the deep part of the water. It's similar to what people do on Dead Air with their backs against empty space, except the infected can't get behind them, and hunters can't pounce in the deep water (though if you're good you can try to pounce from ontop of the house straight onto them for 25 damage).

Even better is everyone climbing ontop of the rock near the water to the far right of the map. Three people watch the land, a fourth person watches the water for Smokers with an automatic rifle. Infected can't get up there and very, very rarely do Tanks think about climbing up there.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Luxray

Is anyone up for a round later tonight? Probably around midnight or so EST?

I'm down - but can't we do it earlier? Some of us work for a living, ya know.

FELIPE NO

Since this weekend is a holiday for most of us Yanks, I figured it would be a good time to fire up some L4D action so we can include Omganus and our other overseas members.

I'll leave the actual thinking up to everyone else. I'm too fucking drunk to come up with anything sensible.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Tails

I could definitely do Saturday afternoon/evening too.

This is prime-time choice right here folks. I'm free for then.

WHO ELSE SHALL STEP FORWARD?

COWARDS DIE MANY TIMES BEFORE THEIR DEATHS; THE VALIANT NEVER TASTE OF DEATH BUT ONCE.

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