X-Men 3

Originally Posted by Megalith

The X-Men are the stupidest characters ever, so the film will only be decent at best. Although the first two films were enjoyable, they were awful adaptations of the comic. Ugly black jumpsuits, Rogue as a 9-year old, Senators turning into stupid blobs, etc. And now, Bryan Singer has left to ruin Superman.

All this coming from a guy who apparently reads the Mary Jane comic book.

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Originally Posted by RushJet1

archangel, i think gambit might be in it, and beast

Gambit was removed from the script after one of the guys from Lost turned the role down.

Beast, Shadowcat and Juggernaut are new.

Originally Posted by Six Machine

Behold and weep.

I love it when dumbasses from the internet who know little to nothing about how film production works posts a picture like this and says "OMG S0 RONG".

Five will get you ten he looks like that because it's an FX costume, so they can use a physical reference for "shine spots" as well as digitally paint over it in post-production instead of just making Colossus completely CG.

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Much like Venom or Carnage - Ive never understood this huge overt attraction to Gambit. He's not a very interesting character as a whole.

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Well, its a rumor on the internet, so it doesnt have much weight

Originally Posted by IMDB

Josh Holloway was offered the role of Gambit, but turned it down because the character was too similar to his character on "Lost" (2004). Eventually, the character was dropped from the film.

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

Not a very interesting character, and he could get his ass handed to him by pretty much every other marvel universe character including Dazzler and Jubilee.

Dude, I think he faught Charlie Brown and Charlie Brown beat his ass so hard, Gambit was burping farts for a week.

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

I hope they do some forced perspective to make juggernaut larger than life. I always pictured him to be about 12 feet tall.

Well, see, things in comic books don't translate well to film. (Anyone else remember the Generation X TV movie? Ooof, gut punch. Was worse than the Nick Fury TV movie with David Hasselhoff). But the reason Juggernaut is *SO* huge is that it's suppose to play off of his sibling's handicap. Notice how Juggernaut is strong and stupid and Charles Xavier is crippled and smart. Not very subtle, but it comes across as such in comic panels.

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Originally Posted by Six Machine

I don't know how film productions works

Then you should not have spoken.

Originally Posted by Six Machine

If Marvel themselves released it, why not apply the after-effects to the image so we know how it will look in the film?

Uh, did you bother checking the X3 offical site? No? GUESS IT'S LEAKED THEN, DUMBASS.

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Originally Posted by Newbie1234

Have you seen the old X-men animated series? Gambit was THE MAN in that show. He was always hitting on Rogue, and it was hilarious.

Pfft, all the great lines were by Wolverine or Magneto or Apocalypse. (I'm still surprised about how many great smack-talk lines they wrote for Wolverine without being able to swear. They're plain awesome.)

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Originally Posted by Spike

So because he doesn't know specifics about film production, he's not allowed to comment on a picture?

Absolutely. I don't expect you to make any sense of logic but lets put it this way - if I wanted to know something specific about the Battle for Little Round Top, I'd ask a historian not a physics professor. Make sense?

If I wanted to know something about a movie - I'd ask someone who knows about movies (myself) and not fucktards on the intarweb (Megalith, you).

Originally Posted by Spike

That makes you the dumbass for simply stating that, not him.

I fail to see how being logical, intelligent and constructive in my posts makes me a "dumbass". If anything, my intolerance toward stupidity is a fucking gift to you.

Originally Posted by Spike

You're one of those know-it-all idiots that think everyone knows about everything and when someone makes a mistake, it automatically warrants flaming from pretentious idiots like you.

"Know-it-all idiots" is an awful analogy. They contradict each other without them being witty or sarcastic - which makes me wonder how much you understand the language you post in. Are you in an "English As A Second Language" course? Perhaps that may explain your inability to fathom what the fuck you are saying.

Originally Posted by Spike

I bet you were abused as a child. Go whine to your abusive parents or something. Whore.

I bet your father pulled you out of your mom's demon cave/womb by your umbilical cord using his teeth during an oral sex session. Then he ate the placenta. Shoe-fucking, shits-for-smarts, cross-eyed, jamrag-eating cockbiter.

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Originally Posted by Spike

First of all, this is a forum where everyone is free to voice their opinion.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough last time? This time I'll lowball it with a quote you might remember: "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"

Originally Posted by Spike

You're so dense that you're not even worth anymore attention from me and you're not even worth finishin this senten...

So, by leaving, you're dismissing me? All you're doing is not posting further stupidity on my internet, for which I thank you. I honestly wish more people would know their mental shorcomings and not even bother saying anything at all.

Originally Posted by JackyBoy

who is the guy with the wings?

Warren Worthington III was a reoccuring character on the X-Men cartoon. He originally went to Muir Island in Season 1 to find a cure for his mutant condition, only to be turned into one of the Horsemen of Apocalypse. After a battle over Stonehege, the newly dubbed Archangel vowed to end the life of Apocalypse and returned to the series a number of times.

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Oof, yeah. While Colossus looks alright, the Sentinel head looks awful. I'm warry that this is going to be TOO comic booky for its own good - Wolverine coming around from behind the Sentinel head is just silly. Hello Superman III!

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Well, this movie is going to suck eggs.

Everything seems forced, contrived. As if its simply going out of its way to be big and bad without anything to stand on. The way this is looking, this'll be way worse than the first X-Men movie.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The movies and the comics are such polar opposites in so many ways, they barely connect to each other. While the Pheonix Saga in the cartoon was pretty spot-on in terms of the original story - they even animated panels from the comic for the cartoon - X3 only has Jean as a "greater entity". Thats as far as the connection goes.

(As for X3 - Iceman doesn't die - but something does happen to Rogue)

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Originally Posted by Visavi

Iceman is suppose to be in his 20's and never really dated Rogue according to the special.

Bobby Drake has been with the X-Men since it's original inception back in the 60s. Rogue came onboard in the late 70s(?) after a stint with the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants. She absorbed the powers of Ms Marvel which is where she gained her invulnerbility/flight/strength - they covered this topic in an episode of the cartoon.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ah, you're correct. I remembered the cover but got the date wrong completely.

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Thanks to Darko, I was able to hear the X-Men 3 score a couple days early. (I tend to get score CDs weeks in advanced but my editor sometimes keeps the really good ones for himself, the jerk)

I didn't know what to expect from John Powell - drumloops? synth? - but it wasn't this. This is really, really wonderful. The theme for the X-Men is bigger than Ottman's and the motif for Jean/Phoenix is beautiful and unrestrained. Lots of anvils too - think Don Davis, not James Horner. By the film's finale ("Phoenix Rises"), the score reaches Lord Of The Rings perportions. I know I still have half the year left but this is probably the best action score of 2006.

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Originally Posted by BucPride

I'm curious, has FOX ever bothered to market the cartoon series on DVD?

Its funny you should mention this. I found this link somehow - http://www.mediaenterprises.tv/produ...roductid=16281

Its a rip off though. Don't bother.

The X-Men cartoon plays on Toon Disney last time I checked, along with The Tick, Spider-Man and even Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends.

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Hey! Ebert And Roper are going to review X-Men 3 today. Check your local listings.

EDIT: They gave the movie two thumbs up. Over all it was a pretty good episode - they gave a good review for the DaVinci Code but also pointed out its flaws (its better as a movie than a book, a lot of the stuff is far-fetched, the controversy around it is BS, etc) and they gave a pretty glowing review for X3 (Good performances, has some ethical questions that can be applied else where, you find yourself agreeing with Magneto's POV, etc)

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Originally Posted by speculative

I think Rogue is interesting, because she's not really Rogue. I think they morphed the role that Jubilee plays into Rogue's character, so that Wolverine could be a father figure to her.

Before Jubilee it was Shadowcat/Spirte/Kitty Pryde. They just recycled the same father/daughter relationship from better years.

Originally Posted by speculative

They really need to find a way to remove the lameness of her current state of power in the new film.

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Spoiler:

Rogue takes the cure at the end of the movie

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, keep in mind of something. The original end of X2 was different - so who's to say anything of changes to X3?

Magneto kills Stryker by impaling/strangling him with chains and Jean just "dies". The part with Stryker "drowning" and the Pheonix thing was a very last moment change to the film - so late that they show Magneto kill Stryker in the comic book adaptation.

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Originally Posted by TGC

The action scenes may be awesome, but story wise, i don't see how they can do it.Too many new characters.

As opposed to the first movie where they introduced Magneto, Logan, Rogue, Cyclops, Professor Xavier, Sabertooth, Toad, Storm, Jean Grey and Iceman?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Soluzar

I'm just not getting good impressions of this movie. It has nothing to do with the new characters, and nothing to do with special effects.

I disagree. Though this is the most expensive and elaborate of the X-Men movies - the deemphasis on "new material" and having "nothing to do with special effects" should force out - GASP - a good story.

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Originally Posted by Soluzar

You don't find the things that have been changed make you uneasy, then?

1.) Whats changed?

2.) Story has to involve change. Otherwise it would be boring and no one would bother with it.

Originally Posted by Soluzar

It isn't that I'm against changing things, but the specific changes that have already come to light seem like changes for the worse, to me.

Be willing to hear them out is all. I actually greatly disliked X2 when it came out - its a real bastardization of one of the best X-Men stories ever (God Loves, Man Kills) - but I've grown to like it quiet a bit after some time. I ain't saying X3 is going to be Hamlet, either, but you gotta take the good with the bad.

I'd rather another Hulk (overly long, overly intelligent) than another Daredevil (too short, too stupid)

Originally Posted by Soluzar

It's important to me that the movies should, as far as is possible, remain in keeping with the tones established by the comic books, and preferably the older comic books. There's so much more to what makes X-Men great than just flashy powers and whizz-bang explosions.

I don't think it's easy to fill 30 years of material into a couple of 2 hour movies. I think the fact that the movies attempt to distance themselves from the comics by being more "grounded in reality" than most of the Mighty Marvel Library is a strong point.

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Yeah, the end of the movie is kinda "OR IS IT". Which is pretty cheap considering it has the balls to do what it did for 2 hours.

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Originally Posted by Freddy Krueger

but you liked it? how is it compared to the others?

I'm going by the novelization, which is pretty terrible in terms of writing. Chris Claremont isn't exactly the most gentle of writers when it comes to lingo and terminology. I can't see the term "frequency modulation" coming out of Jean Grey's mouth.

The story it's self is very much a mix between the previous two movies - it has that b-movie silliness of the first (sans MUTANT MACHINE) while trying to be as epic as the second movie. It seems to mostly work on paper - I'm sure Ian McKellan is fantastic with what he's given.

However, there are some problems. (Ultra minor spoilers, but I won't risk ruining someone's expectations)

Spoiler:

Rogue has almost nothing to do in the movie which is considerably disappointing for me. However, the movie is less about Logan than the previous entries which is a strength and weakness - I am tired of seeing everything attached to him but the movie also tries to be all things to all people in characterizing everyone in it.

I also think that what they do with Professor X is a little unusual. It's very... BIG yet I don't think we're able to make sense of it or have any real feelings on what happens to him until we see a X-Men 4 roll out

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