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Old Mar 17, 2006, 12:10 PM #1 of 75
Originally Posted by Faust 72
Alan Moore loves the drafts from David Hayter's one
Link please?

Generally, Alan Moore has no want of Hollywood and no say in what the script looks like. All his stories have been butchered by Hollywood this far - Leauge Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell - and I doubt "V" will be any different.

Last I heard, they were forced to change the end of Watchmen because of the events of 9/11. I don't think Moore would like that too much - this is the guy who told D*C Comics to fuck off when they wanted to do a Watchmen Aniversary promotion. (Mind you, he doesn't decry the movie considering the check they cut for him - but he distances himself as far from the movie as he can)

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 01:25 PM #2 of 75
Originally Posted by JazzFlight
I've heard it's pro-terrorist / anti-Bush / anti-America.
Keep in mind that "V For Vendetta" was written to oppose the British Right in the 1980s. Back then, they were people in office who wanted to put people with AIDS into camps and to quash homosexuality. Moore's response was this story - he saw the... "Orwellian" (ugh) aspects of the present day and wrote something as a warning.

Obviously, the fact that the movie comes out now, it'll be read as anti-Bush. But the Wachowski's originally pitched this movie before they pitched The Matrix. If "V For Vendetta" came out during the Clinton Administration, what would the inference be then?

Anything can be misconstrued - it's easier than to bother thinking about it. People on the internet are now trying to tell me that the Rebel Alliance is a terrorist group. See, it's all a matter of timing - and inadvertently, how stupid people are.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 01:38 PM #3 of 75
Originally Posted by Locke
Empire = US
Rebels = Everybody else.
Well, thats incredibly invalid for dozens of reasons. Here's some you probably didn't bother considering before vomiting all over the thread like the town drunkard leaning up against a wall in an alleyway.

*You can just as easily say that the Empire is the British Military and the Rebels the American Army and its an alagory for the American Revolution. Or any number of combinations of Government versus Uprising scenarios that have happened countlessly through the ages.

*America has never been facist. At worst we've been controversial like we are now but theres none of the outright facist snobery nor the gunboat diplomacy that the Empire has. While I do not agree with much of the Bush Administration's policy on... well, anything - too many world-stupid college students and ignorant housewives cry out for Bush to do something without even bothering to look at a picture bigger than themselves.

*It's easy to pigeonhole current events into such a metaphor. Thats the reason that Star Wars is such a universally understood story. I mean, you could use any number of Item A versus Item B - You could say that the Empire is "Great Taste" and the Rebellion is "Less Filling" and have it still be apt. That kind of renders your point completely moot.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 04:44 PM #4 of 75
Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII
The Galactic Empire? Oh please ... what's next, Nazi analogies?
Given that all the actors were white, british males in fairly facist uniforms, you're not too, too far off from Nazism

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:52 PM #5 of 75
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Also Lehah, I'm just saying that the Alliance was wrong, not that they were terrorists.
I wasn't talking about what you said. I've read it other places in infuriating stupidity

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:35 PM #6 of 75
Originally Posted by kinkymagic
And when you factor in the matrix brothers you know it's going to suck.
Thats a silly comment - given that they made a couple good movies

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 08:37 AM #7 of 75
To be fair though, he's probably a little distrustful after what happened to the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and From Hell (Which also wasn't too bad).
Keep in mind, Alan Moore is the type of person that would engrave bricks with the symbol of Christ if he were to build a church, just for the greater glory of God. Theres so many itty bitty things in Leauge Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, so to see it as such a bad movie is disheartening.

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