Severely retarded girl undergoes surgery to keep her in childlike state

Originally Posted by Bradylama

You know, in the "good old days" this country used to practice legal eugenics. It was illegal for the mentally retarded to breed.

I'll go one step further and say we should send her back in time so Josef Mengele can experiment on her.

I disagree with what the parents are doing. Simply put - they conducted unnessessary surgery for their own benefit, not their child's. Is there anything lower or more self-involved than removing the sexual identity of another human being simply because the parents continue to want to shelter and care for their child simply because she's a vegitable?

Why not simply remove the breathing hoses from so many accident victims? They'd eventually learn to breathe on their own anyway, right?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by mindOverMatter

I suppose, it's the parents decision.

Civil liberties extend to some, but not all? What cave were you born in?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by surasshu

In this particular case, the parents aren't exactly doing what's the most convenient for them. If anything, killing her* would be convenient, saving the parents enormous amounts of time and money.

I don't know what cesspool of piss and rust you were brought up in - but murder tends to be illegal in most places.

Yes you put in a footnote showing you knew this. But if you DID know it in the first place, why bring it up as an option?

(Christ, I sometimes forget how far down this hole of an internet goes when it comes to bad reasoning and harsh stupidity)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by mindOverMatter

should the parents be allowed to allow this, or do laws override that.

You may not have your date of birth posted in your profile - but we can tell your age by this stellar peice of posting.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by mindOverMatter

I enjoy debating, but not with people who concentrate on things like the faults they see in their opponents debating style, or by making insults to the person they are debating against. That's not real debating.

Earned that "Two" rating in your profile through hard work, did you?

Frankly, if you can't take a critique about the "faults in debating style", stop posting. Your posts are baseless, factless and borderline insipid. How do you expect anyone to give you any attention - nevermind respect! - if you can barely summon the strength to use proper grammar on a consistant basis.

I mean, I'm all for letting some typos slide, but you're way beyond simple bad spelling. It's like you go out of your way to be an asshole with this shit.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Hachifusa

There is nothing inherently illegal or even unethical in these procedures.

This being said - it obviously IS unethical. If it wasn't - why would there be a thread about this in the first place? Your obvious moral certainty belies a certain amount of ignorance that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole or care to honor you to wipe my asshole with.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Pez

My understanding is that the choice to stunt her growth has already had medical ethics committee approval, although this won’t stop the fact that there will be a big fucking ethical question mark hanging over the whole situation for a long time.

So then the obvious anwser is that the medical ethics committee who decided to do this is flawed. Perhaps they just wanted more money in their coffers.

It boils down to what benefit does the girl get from this operation. She doesn't get any - it was done because the parents are too skeeved out to clean up vagina shat.

I don't disagree with Brady's assumption myself - it would probably more merciful to see this girl dead than living 40 years as a mentally inept, sexually castrated midget. But I'll go even further than that yet again - and say if you're going to kill the girl, you might as well put her idiot, self-involved obviously rich parents into a grave, as well.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Why do you want to control how people spend their money?

I don't want to control them - so much comment that what kind of lowly human being pours money into a surgery that was elective and probably not covered by an insurance agency - just because they can't be bothered to be good parents?

Originally Posted by pb and spanglish

What the heck, Lehah? First, you should stop belittling people as your main method of arguing--sure it makes them feel inadequate, but it doesn't really help your case any.

Go piss, moan and wipe to the staff that are in this thread and obviously disagree with you, since they haven't said anything yet. My finger-pointing towards you is not only on topic - but factual. If people don't like being shit-kicked for stupidity, then they need to stop being stupid. It's very easy.

Originally Posted by pb and spanglish

Holy crap. You have no substance to your arguments, just baseless insults. "Clearly you're young, because your opinion is crap," and the like.

Actually, theres a lot to that. What the fuck do young people know about shit from fuck? You're young, what experiences do you have? High school Social Studies class does not equate you to being able to throw your weight around simply because you can type on the internet. Watching CNN does not make you some Kissinger for the internet.

Earn my respect, don't cry because you can't.

Originally Posted by pb and spanglish

To say that these operations are only for the parents' benefit is utter nonsense

Crawl out of your own sensibilities, whitebread. How does this girl herself benefit from this type of operation? Stunted growth? Becoming a ennuch (a term used for men, I know)?

No, these are parents that cannot be bothered to be parents. These are the same tripe that wedge their kids onto summer camp to get away from them or just buy them whatever they want to shut them up. These parents are not good parents, and neither are the doctors on the medical ethics board who obviously violated basic civil liberties simply because the parents had the coffers to pay for it.

Laws extend to everyone, not just most.

Originally Posted by Hachifusa

I am making my point, saying that it isn't.

Thats not making a point, thats making a statement. Saying the sky is falling does not make it so, and your post did absolutely nothing to bolster your viewpoint at all.

Originally Posted by Hachifusa

Be a bit more mature, here.

Don't ever put it past me to treat you like you deserve to be. If you don't like it, hit the showers.

Originally Posted by Hachifusa

His goal isn't to argue; it is to (attempt) to make them feel inadequate.

Your post does that well enough without my pointing it out. So why do I do it? I expect more from people, thats why.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?