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Why are people offended by the term "Islamic fascists"?
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Casual_Otaku
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 10:05 AM #1 of 131
Originally Posted by PattyNBK
Here is the article from MSN:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14319984/

I usually despise Bush, but I have to defend him this time. "Islamic fascists" is a very accurate term to describe these terrorists. They are Islamic, and they are trying to spread a form of dictatorship that is based on religion and nationalism and racism. So why are the innocent people, the Muslims that do not fit into the group, offended by such terminology?

I say "If the shoe fits" . . . In this case, it does, by definition!
'muslim fascists' is a more appropriate term. 'islamic fascists' is NOT an accurate term to describe terrorists, if anything it's an oxymoron because what they are doing (or trying to do) is not islamic. it would be better (although i still find it distasteful) to call them muslim fascists because then you are not tainting the religion and everyone that follows it (the vast majority of peaceful muslims included). you need to learn to differentiate between a religion and what followers of a religion choose to do. the media never refers to israelis who oppress and murder innocent palestinians as 'jewish fascists/terrorists', so why do it to muslims? and before you try to argue that what the israelis are doing has nothing to do with religion, allow me to point out the fact that they chose to occupy palestine because they see it as their holy land, so it has everything to do with religion. and before you try to argue that what they are doing is islamic, please go and read the Qura'an from cover to cover as i have the feeling that you are very ignorant about this religion.

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Originally Posted by PattyNBK
Why would a normal law-abiding and good Muslim be bothered by terrorists being called "Islamic fascists"? I'm not offended when white serial killers are called murdering psychopaths, as I'm not part of that group.
oh dear. based on your reasoning and arguments, you don't come across as being very intelligent. if white serial killers were referred to as 'white psychopaths' or 'american psychopaths' in the media i guarantee you would be offended.

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The same should go for Muslims who are not part of the terrorist group, as neither they nor other good-natured Muslims being called by this term.
decent muslims are, however, part of something called islam, and by using the term 'islamic fascist' you are associating them with fascism.

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 10:45 AM #2 of 131
Originally Posted by Lord Styphon
So, what you're saying is that your problem with "Islamic fascists" is that it uses the wrong adjective for describing someong or something of the Muslim faith?

This would create a problem for English speakers, since in English "Muslim" and "Islamic" can be used interchangeably.
they cannot be used interchangeably. for example, let's say that you have a muslim who believes in his faith but who is a bad muslim because he likes a bit of bacon and a bud every now and again. to say to this person that he is islamic would be completely wrong, because according to the code of conduct in islam all muslims are prohibited from eating pigs and drinking alcohol. he doesn't cease being a muslim because he is violating islamic rules, he's just a bad muslim. to call him islamic would mean that all those muslims who do abide by the rules are no better than him because they're being labeled with the same tag.

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