Web Design/Development

It's been a while since I last designed anything so these are kinda old.

InGo'S RaNcH
My Zelda fan-site. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I really love the series (although I do like them) and it's all I can think of. The topic is the least I care about. This website is like my little frankenstein. It's the place where I experiment with new stuff like Ajax and some nice scripts, that's why it will take a while to load. I have currently 3 different designs which change dynamically thanks to a javascript code that switches the CSS stylesheets. On the left menu there's a section entitled "IR a la carte". Click on those 3 buttons and the design will change.

Anime Omega
A friend's website which he asked me to design. It's been more than a year since I designed this, but I still like it.



I got a job a while ago where I had to design websites, so I designed quite a few...

http://www.qbureau.com <-- that's the place I worked at
http://www.qbureau.com/proyectos/esi...dule=planteles
http://ingosranch.gameshunters.com/t...ac/almacen.php <-- This was a CMS Admin page. Most ideas came from the Jaws project.
http://ingosranch.gameshunters.com/temp/tcm/ <-- A very, very fast design that was like an emergency thing. That's why it's so damn simple.
http://ingosranch.gameshunters.com/t...alize/test.php <-- And this one was supposed to be my portfolio... or something.

That's all I can think of right now... Some good stuff above, by the way. I liked the design at http://www.ps3camp.info . The menu is awesome.

Oh, and Ultima, could you share the font you used at this logo?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Qube

Render, html and css are just as much a part of webdesign as php is. php outputs html files, so you still need to know how to make it work even if it's going to be powered by php.

Or....are you saying that you wouldn't want those classes because you already have skills in that area. It's great to reread things lol.

PHP is best learned on one's own, starting projects from scratch. I've always found it's the only way to truly learn it, because it has so many functions and variations on how to do things, that if you only use the methods they teach in a school, you won't be as skilled as if you learned all the ins and outs, and when it's best to use the different techniques.

Maybe I'm just biased because I got nothing out of any programming classes I have ever been in.

On another note, I've also been contemplating starting a web design business sometime, however I tend to prefer working on the guts of a site, not the design part. As much as I can do alright in that department, I just prefer to be playing with the database and internal code stuffs. We should talk.

Agreed. Learning PHP (HTML and CSS also) is best if you do it on your own. When I had HTML classes they were so damn outdated I lol'd at my teacher and end up teaching him about XHTML. Same with PHP. I don't know much of it, but the truth is that anytime I got inside a PHP class, I only got bored. I'm quite sure it's because at school they teach you the syntaxis, but when you're coding you are actually using your brain... practicing the logics.

also, if you ever get a web-design business up and running and need some help, count me in. I'm pretty good at CSS, XHTML and the graphics, and can be of some help at javascript and PHP.

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Originally Posted by S_K

Chances are almost everyone here will pwn me at web design, but my only excuses are I'm a student and I'm learning the graphics side more rather then things like coding entire databases,(not to mention spending over half the time writing how I build things as evidence rather then actually building them... ) I appreciate handcoding sites is important, but coding every last bit by hand these days is just madness imo.

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If the intro pisses you off there's a skip button in the bottom right corner. The design's getting another rehash for obvious reasons hence the lack of updates, but it would be nice to know how clueless I am compared to the GFFers I guess ^^;

*waits for various people to say Flash = fail*

You know it already. Flash = fail. I don't want to be harsh or anything, and please remember it's just a point of view.

First of all, intros are way stupid. (most of the time) You enter a website to SEARCH INFORMATION, not to see a damn 20 second movie made with flash. Then, perhaps I'm way too much into this web2.0 and semantic content, but flash movies really shouldn't be used to build entire websites. Actually, flash shouldn't be used at websites at all. The only reason I find for using flash to create your site is to make it more "dynamic", but then again, it depends on your definition of dynamic. If by dynamic you mean stupid sounds (that distort the music I'm listening to), shinny effects when switching pages and lots of stuff moving from time to time all around (that most of the times are quite disturbing), then go ahead. If you are not doing all what stated before, then you don't need to use flash at all, it can be done with (X)HTML. Heck, even some stuff that you would think only possible with flash can be done with (X)HTML/Javascript/CSS. Flash sites also can rank low at googlerank and stuff like that, because the spider can't read the movie, it only reads HTML tags and content; they usually take longer to load than normal HTML pages; they are NOT accessible; you can't select text at flash sites, nor you can link directly to a specific section of a website, etc. etc. I just found Flash way lame at creating websites. Use it for presentations or funny movies/games like the ones found at Newgrounds; not for your website.

Again, it's only my opinion. Flash is just not for websites.

Oh, and please, if you'regoing to add a "skip" button, do so in the HTML. Making people load something they do not want to see only to skip it is just plain mean.

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I use CSS for the hover effects on my buttons. Take metal.ize for example. The hover effects on the top blue menu and on the category buttons is all CSS. No span needed, just a simple list (which helps for accessibility and complies with the semantic code rule).

I tend to stay away from Javascript as much as I can. Using javascript for the design itself is a no. It's a nice plus, though; with all this AJAX scripts and effects, but that's it: a plus. I may be crazy, but a website that NEEDS javascript to WORK is just wrong.

Websites should be able to work with just HTML. No need of Javascript, Flash... not even CSS. That's what I aim for when creating a website (of course, when I make a website for another person, even if I hate what they ask for, I have to do it... give the customer what they want [no, customer's are not always right ¬¬]).

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Lets split this...

Originally Posted by Ulysses

The problem with CSS-only websites is that (as far as I have seen these last few years) they all follow the same page format. Columns. Just a bunch of bloody columns; it seems really boring to me.

That's just a tendency. CSS can do whatever you want, not only columns. Columns only happen to be the most accessible and easy format to do.

Originally Posted by Ulysses

Can anyone point me to a site built with CSS and no javascript that has an unusual layout?

After class, I'll try to find some. Look at the CSS-Zen Garden to begin.

Originally Posted by Ulysses

Can CSS do everything that javascript can?

Of course not. Javascript is a programming language. CSS is not. You can, though, create some of the most common uses of javascript with plain CSS/(X)HTML.

Originally Posted by Ulysses

That's a genuine question, since I haven't done anything web-related for a long time and would love to know if I can show/hide/reposition layers or do linked rollovers with CSS, and what mouse events are supported by it.

I have something like what you ask for. Here, take a look at this page. You see the menu labeled "planteles" on your right? Use your mouse to hover through the items there. A rollover effect! And it's CSS!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Erisu Kimu

I kind of do think that pure CSS-based sites are limited in everything else besides visual. CSS is after all for style and design of the layout. I think the whole purpose of using pure CSS is to get away from table layouts. Why? I have no clue. I think with tables it's way easier to structure things in proportion. With CSS, it just feels like one big pain in the ass, because you have to pretend to think that there are tables, but really you're using divs and margins. In the end, I would say that it's obviously geared towards the graphic designers. CSS has its place like all the other web elements, but they're only effective if used for the right things.

The point for using DIVs instead of tables is semantic code. A table is for TABULAR data. A layout is not tabular data. A DIV is for grouping elements.

And if you are trying to pretend that DIVs are tables when coding a CSS layout, you're doing it wrong. You don't need to pretend DIVs are tables, but blocks of elements. As you said, all the web elements have it's place; you just need to use them for the right things.

And the whole reason for using CSS as much as you can instead of tables/javascript or anything else you can think of is mere accessibility. It loads faster, it's semantic and withouth CSS, chances are that it will still work.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?