[Movie] Heroes

Man, so far this show is looking to be my favorite show of the new season. Between what I've read about it, and the commercials I've seen for it (and also because Hayden Panettiere is hot), I know I'm gonna like this show. I didn't know the pilot was already out, so I'll have to go check that out.

I don't know though about NBC getting back on top. After a pretty abysmal showing for the last couple of seasons (with most new shows getting cancelled left and right), this season's new shows looks like it's giving them a chance to be good again (I'm mainly interested in Heroes, Studio 60, and FNL), but only just a chance. I don't know if any of these shows will become instant hits or anything (though if I was to put a bet on it, I would say FNL has that kind of potential), but I think that as long as these shows stay in the right direction, and NBC gives them a proper chance, they could definitely help NBC become better than it is now.

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I really don't think NBC will win Sundays. With Sunday Night Football, they'll definitely get some ratings, but I doubt it will be enough to win the night. ABC never really won with Monday Night Fooball, and all it went up against was some CBS comedies. NBC has to contend with both Extreme Makeover: Home Edition and Desperate Housewives from ABC (two shows which always helped them win the night before), along with their new show Brothers and Sisters, which could catch on; The Amazing Race, Cold Case, and Without a Trace from CBS, which definitely won't win the night, but will take a good chunk out of the ratings; and, to a very lesser extent, FOX's comedies (The Simpsons, The War at Home, Family Guy, and American Dad). Individually, I think ABC could beat it alone, but combined with all the other stuff, I don't think NBC really stands a chance at winning the night, no matter which game is on.

Monday is definitely going to be a battle between NBC, CBS, and FOX. NBC has Deal or No Deal, which is definitely going to help them (even though FOX will probably do just as well with Prison Break), so the rest just depends on how well Heroes and Studio 60 can do. Heroes has to go against Two and a Half Men, the best comedy on CBS, and Vanished, which looks like it will be pretty good (and pretty compatible with Prison Break as well). I would pick Heroes out of the lot, but I'll probably download Vanished (even though, unless Heroes or Vanished turns out to be an instant hit, they'll both probably be beat by CBS). And as for Studio 60 going against CSI Miami, I think CBS will wind up winning that, no matter how much of a better show Studio 60 winds up being.

Tuesdays are kind of iffy. Depending on how strong FNL performs, combined with Law and Order it could definitely help them win, I'm just not so sure how well L&O: SVU can compete against The Unit. Then of course, you have House in that equation, which could very well beat both of them (though I doubt FOX will win the night with the pretty weak looking Standoff). For now, I would put my money on NBC, only because FNL looks like a strong contender, and the new CBS show on that night (Smith) doesn't look that good. I guess ABC is kind of a factor with Dancing With the Stars 3 and Boston Legal on the same night, but since they don't have a stong show in that time period between them, I doubt they'll win.

And yeah, with the Dancing with the Stars results show, Lost, and The Nine (which looks pretty good to me), ABC has that night wrapped up. That kinda sucks though, because I think Justice on FOX actually looks kinda good, but putting it up against Lost is a deathwish.

CBS will win Thursday just with CSI alone, which is why I think it was pretty stupid for ABC to move Grey's Anatomy to the same timeslot. It'll probably get good ratings still, just not as much as before. NBC has some pretty good counterprogramming though, and along with ER (which is going against two new shows), I could definitely see them getting second.

No one really cares about Fridays, but I think it could wind up going to either NBC or CBS. Thet're both using pretty established shows, so it could go either way.

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Eh, I guess we'll just have to wait and see then. Even though ESPN's numbers might have been high, they were still just cable numbers. With the move to broadcast, they'll definitely go up, but I still doubt it will be enough to best ABC (though, without Grey's Anatony on Sundays, they certainly have a better chance).

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Not to rain on yur parade, Amara, but there is already a Heroes thread here. No offense or anything (you have a great first post), but I just want to make sure I don't post in a thread that winds up getting closed, so I want to know which one will stay open before I post my thoughts and stuff.

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Okay, first off, I have to say that this show was pretty great. Right off the bat, they started us off with an interesting premise (the whole people having powers things), and they've managed to create what looks to be a complex plot around it. Most of the characters seem to be interesting, though I can't say all their stories are.

My main problems about the characters stories is that they seem...cliche, I guess. It's not that big a problem though, since they're made pretty different once you factor in the powers. They had to establish some kind of backstory in the first episode though, so future episodes will probably be better in this respect.

as for the powers themselves, most of them are pretty cool. My favorite would have to be Claire's, because that would be a pretty damn handy ability to have, and the way they pull it off just looks cool (and plus, Hayden Panettiere is freaking hot). After that, I'd go with Hiro, because I suspect epic things will come from hs powers.

But yeah, I suspect good things will come from this show, especially once it gets into the height of things. The plot is definitely interesting, so I'm gonna keep watching.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, if you have the Sci-Fi Channel, you can catch the pilot again this Friday at 7/6c, but other than that, yeah, you'll have to download it.

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Yeah, they have it scheduled each week, so you're always gonna have two chances to watch it. They're doing the same thing with Studio 60 on Bravo (though I forget the day and time on that one) as well. I guess it helps when one company owns all those channels!

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Originally Posted by JasonTerminator

Are they gonna have encores every Tuesday? I usually work Monday night, so I'd like to know.

I don't think so. It came on the same time slot where Friday Night Lights is scheduled to come on starting next week, so they probably only did it because they had nothing else to show for this week at that time.

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Damn, I'm definitely gonna be paying close attention to this show when I watch it (I was browsing GFF while it was on), because I probably didn't even pick up on half of the things mentioned in this thread so far. Hell, I'll probably just rewatch this episode as well.

But from what I did see, this was another good episode. They're still setting a lot of things up, but at the same time they're giving the characters a lot more depth. I'm still very interested in seeing what happens when this show gets into the thick of things, since it's already so great now.

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Well, you could always just download the episode through torrent, as I'm sure there are probably still some well seeded torrents out there. I think it's worth watching, not just to catch up on certain things, but just because it's entertaining.

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Originally Posted by YoMan

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I assume it was the coroner. Right about the time when Claire is about to wake up (when her eyes change) you can hear a door being closed in the background. That's probably the coroner who just left for the day.

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While that probably is the most logical explanation, it still doesn't make much sense. I mean, the coroner decides to look everywhere (by cutting her open) except where the actual injury occured, finally decides to pull out the stick, and just leaves without examining the injury?

I don't know, maybe someone else knows about her (or it could have just been her dad), so they snuck in and took the stick out so she could do her regeneration thing. It would just seem weird for anyone like the coroner to just take it out and then leave, and not do any further examination.

But yeah, this last episode was pretty great as well. Out of all the heroes in this episode, I think I liked Greg Grunberg's character's (sorry, his name escapes me at the moment) story the most. It was interesting to watch him not only use his powers in a professional aspect (in his job as a cop), but in a personal aspect in the scene with his wife. I also can't wait to see what happens in regards to that final scene in the bar, where he couldn't read that one guy's mind (was it because he wasn't thinking about anything, or was it because he had some kind of power that could block it?), and then he passed out.

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Since everyone is mentioning Smallville, I'll mention that two producers from there (Jeph Loeb and Greg Beeman) are actually working on Heroes (well, those are the only two names I noticed anyway). I wonder how much influence they have on this show, since they have experience with the superhero thing.

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I really liked tonight's episode. It gave us insight into almost everyone's power who hadn't already been clearly explained, and it managed to pack in a couple of surprises as well (yes, future Hiro ftw).

One thing I kinda didn't like about the episode though was how some of the heroes were using their powers for the wrong reasons. Niki was understandable, but Hiro and Claire didn't have to do it. Ultimately though, these people are still just humans, so it's not that surprising to see that they are using their abilities for personal gain.

Another thing I was disappointed in was the lack of focus on Matt's character. He was there for like the first two minutes or so, and then they never touched on him again for the rest of the episode. And just overall, the whole episode seemed kinda disjointed, like they would focus one person for about a minute and then spend five minutes on the next person. I know they have a lot of characters to focus on, but I think they could have handled things a little better than how they did (I doubt the show will be like this once they all come together).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by speculative

I wonder about the ratings for this show. It's going up against 2.5 Men and I'm not sure what else. In my mind it's the best new show this season, so I hope it succeeds.

It's been doing pretty good in the ratings (averaging more than 13 million viewers each week), as it's one of the top three new shows this season, along with Ugly Betty and Brothers & Sisters. It's going up against Two and a Half Men/The New Adventures of Old Christine on CBS (which are the only shows that have managed to beat it), The Bachelor on ABC, and now Justice (which has taken over Vanished's time slot) on FOX.

Trust me, this show is doing great in the ratings, so it's not going anywhere anytime soon. It's because it's doing so good that it even came on last night in Sunday Night Football's place, even though Friday Night Lights was originally scheduled to air at that time (that's a show I would be worried about, along with Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip).

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Originally Posted by nazpyro

Can't wait for the return. Too bad it's on Mondays. :/

Haha, truth. If this was going against almost any other show I'd probably it, but not when it's up against 24.

And of note, this episode was pretty good in regards to getting getting a good amount time in with all the heroes (I guess it helped that they had a lot of scenes together).

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Originally Posted by parKbench

Why was the super-hearing giving Sylar such problems after he stole it? I thought he knew how things and powers worked, but he seemed to have trouble controlling the power. I don't remember him ever having any problems like that with the other powers that he stole.

I was just thinking it was something that was always on, and therefore not controllable (kinda like Claire's regeneration, how she doesn't actually control it, but it just happens). That was the case with Dale anyway, so maybe even Sylar can't control something like that.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see this page when I was responding to this. But yeah, I agree with you guys.

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