Alias Discussion

I would have watched it last night, but I still haven't seen the last two episodes from before the break. Now that's four episodes I need to catch up on.

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Well, you could always download the torrents of the episodes if you want to watch it as it first comes on. But I understand wanting to watch it on TV though (always my preferred method).

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Originally Posted by bighunt

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At the end of wednesday's show they said only 5 episodes left. it's like this isn't a full season all. they need to tue up many loose ends in the last 5 weeks.

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Well, I know there's gonna be at least one more two hour episode (series finale), so that's at least six more hours to wrap things up. I think there may also be another two hour episode, but I'm not too sure.

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I finally got caught up on the episodes I missed (five hours worth!), and while the show still isn't as good as it used to be (Seasons 1 and 2), it's still better than the last couple of seasons (3 and 4). My only gripe is that it seems kinda stupid to be making up some of these new plots (like whatever the hell Agent Grace is doing) so close to the end of the series. They should instead be making sure they can tie up the loose ends of the series as much as possible.

Originally Posted by Eleo

Can someone tell me what the full Rambaldi device actually turned out to be? That shit had me hyped for Season 1-2 but it never seemed to go anywhere important.

It was featured in the last episode of season 4. It was this giant red floaty ball thingy (like the one in the first episode, except realy, really huge) that was supposed to poison the entire Earth's water supply, or something. I don't really know for sure though, as it all kinda stopped making sense after a while.

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Originally Posted by Eleo

And didn't Sloane at one point say he put it together and and it simply played back a message of love that somehow changed his outlook on life?

He did say that, but I don't think it was a literal message, just something he saw that made him do that.

Also, I know they said that Elena Derevko created that thing (I think they called it 'The Mueller Device') using the other Rambaldi artifacts, so since Sloane was a part of her plot, I guess it's possibe he meant he saw the device and that's when he "changed his outlook" or whatever. Like I said though, a lot of it really didn't make sense

I was speaking idiomatically.

Tonight's episode was alright, but someone needs to ask J.J. what's with all the deaths tonight on his shows.

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I'm sorry, but that was way stupid how they killed Nadia off, especially right after they had just brought her back. I mean, it didn't even look like Sloane pushed her that hard, especially right into the conviniently placed glass table. Granted, Nadia never really worked for me as a character (to be honest, I still haven't seen how she came to be on the show), but this was still a stupid way to kill her off.

Renee's death was definitely much better, though. I especially liked how she died thinking Sydney had betrayed her, because it worked in the context of the episode (all the talk about Sydney wanting her to join APO and stuff). But still, this whole cloning thing is kinda far out, even for Alias.

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Personally, I don't think he can tie up all the loose ends by the last episode. Not only would he have to tie up the loose ends of this season (like with Vaughn, Grace, and Prophet 5), but the loose ends of the entire series as well (Rambaldi, Irina, etc.). Something tells me we're gonna be left with a lot more questions than answers.

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So how about this week's episode? To me, it still seems more like they're trying to tie up all the loose ends from this season, and not the ones that from throughout the whole series. I think one of the reasons why it'll be hard to do that is because they brought in so many new characters this season (Rachel, Tom, Renee, Peyton, and all of Prophet-5). Not only that, but they also tried to give them as much importance as the characters who were already there (Sydney, Jack, Sloane, etc.), as well as bring back others (Irina, Anna, Sark) and try to make them important adain as well. Maybe they weren't planning on this to be the last season, which is obvious in the massive scope they gave to this season, but once they knew it would be they should have altered the direction this season was going in. As it stands now, I don't think we'll get any long-term ending from the series finale, so maybe they'll do some type of follow-up movie or something to really tie up all of the loose ends.

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Yeah, Sark's appearances have really become useless "let's try to elicit surprise from the fans" occasions. He hasn't really been relevant since like season 3, yet they still keep bringing him back. I hope he does finally die this time, just because.

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Well, I didn't watch all of the third season, but I thought he was important because his dad was someone important that Sydney killed or something and Vaughn's wife was working with him in some group or something or other (I'm obviously babbling, but my point is I thought that he at least had some relevance to the plot back then).

As for Tarantino, I totally forgot he was even is season 4. I remember him from the first season, but I don't even remember what he did in season 4. But to answer your question, no, nothing happens with him in season 5.

EDIT: I just looked it up, and it seems his character (McKenas Cole) was last seen in season 3, not 4. In addition, he was in a couple of the episodes in the second half of the season, which are the episodes I missed, which explains why I don't remember him coming back

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I finally got around to watching the finale tonight, so here are my thoughts.

For the most part, they did a better job of wrapping up most of the loose ends then I thought they would, though I can't say I liked how they dealt with them. It seems like the best way they could figure out how to tie up all the loose ends was to kill whoever was involved, which they did with Prophet-5 (though it was pretty cool how Peyton killed them), Sloane (well, as close to death as he could get), and Irina (loved that fight with Sydney). But overall, I think this finale did justice to the series.

As for season 5 as a whole, I actually enjoyed it alot. I don't think anything will ever top the first two seasons, but I would place this one right after them (especially before season 3, which was so bad it made me stop watching the series for a while). It did manage to do what it did right, even though it wasn't even a full season (only 17 episodes). I think all the new characters help give the show some new life, but this was as far as the show needed to go storywise (meaning any more seasons would have been overkill).

As for the series as a whole, I'll remember it as one of the good ones, but probably not a great one. For everything it did right it probably did just as many things wrong, though I don't really fault that against it. I don't know it it'll go down in the TV history books (especially since realizing how it borrows some things from La Femme Nikita, a show which predates Alias by about five years), but I'll probably wind up getting the entire series on DVD one day.

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The final thing turned out to be regular-sized red ball of water. It was found in this tomb in Mongolia, and it was activated using The Horizon, which was this metal encased red sphere thingy. Once The Horizon was removed however, it caused the red ball of water to burst, forming a pool of red water in the area beneath the pedestal that it was set on. We eventually find out that this water gives eternal life.

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That was actually never really touched on. Some parts of the prophecy were referenced in relation to some of the things that happened in the episode (like that part about Mt. Subasio or whatever it's called), but nothing about sydney destroying the planet ever came up.

I guess the closest thing to that happening was when Irina (since wasn't it stated at one point in the series that the prophecy could have been referring to Sydne'ys mom?) was going to shoot some missiles at Washington D.C. and London, but I would hardly call that close to destroying the planet.

I was speaking idiomatically.

JJ's problem (with Lost and Alias, anyway) is that he doesn't stick around with the shows after a while. I don't when he stopped working on Alias, but I think he stopped working on Lost sometime late in the first season. If he would just stick around with a show instead of constantly leaving to work on other projects, we would probably have something better than what we have now.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?