GFF Risk 10: The One Where Tritoch Doesn't Win

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

I suspect KrelEN defines shortly the same way Rockgamer does.

Hey, I never said anything one way or the other. If I have enough time to say I'll take my turn, I'd actually take my turn.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Not that I should be one to be bringing this up, but is there any kind of time limit in place?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

6 Dice Rolls Iowa

Alright, I'll start off by annexing Minnesota, South Dakota, and Nebraska.

Then I'll attack as many of Krel's states as I can in a ploy for revenge Kansas.

Oklahoma is next.

And then I'm coming home to Texas.

And to show that I'm not bitter at all, my tanks will be rolling into Arkansas.

And because I wish heaps of goodwill onto Krel, I will use my Energy Boost and attack Missouri.

And finally, time for an attack on Iowa.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

6 Dice Rolls New Mexico 2

Alright, first I'm taking over Colorado.

Next is Arizona.

Then, California.

And with Tritoch's EB in tow, I'll use it and attack New Mexico.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Yeah, I confirmed it was legal with nutty before I went about doing it. Didn't want to pull a Plarom there.

How ya doing, buddy?

Yes, because I want to be known as having super accurate dice rolls so I will surely become the next target everyone goes for (especially now that Tritoch is gone).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Tritoch

Love is still over though, Rock. What happened to Cave Buddies?

I could go over the specifics, but no one wants to- aw hell, let's do it:

1) Considering you're the most hated person in this game, aligning with you would put just as big a target on my back as the one that was on yours.

2) Despite that, I probably would have aligned with you in this game if you had actually asked. I wasn't just gonna assume we had an alliance since this was a new game, and since I asked you in the last game I figured you might ask me in this one.

3) And let's not forget, you made an alliance with Plarom even after you had just aligned with me in the last game. To add insult to injury, you didn't even tell me about it until he was almost dead and you could use the opportunity to pounce on him. So not only did you hide another alliance from me (is there no trust?), but you showed that you're willing to betray your allies at the drop of a hat if it's beneficial to you.

So yeah, not sure if that's the type of person I want to be allied with, in Risk anyway. I still have no problem being CAVE BUDDIES in any other endeavor.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Tritoch

Oh, we're gonna do this? Alright, let's throw down. It's on.

1) Considering you were the only other person to survive last game and were the one who set me up to take out Plarom, I figure you've got that target anyway.

Have you not seen the thread title? Sure, I might have been instrumental in helping you win, but the hate for me is nowhere near the level it is for you. If I can alleviate some of that hate against me by disassociating myself from you, why shouldn't I? An alliance with you in this game would definitely had been more harmful than beneficial, regardless of people's sentiments towards me.

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2) A fair point, but then you've been upset in past games when I've attacked you due to the assumed alliance.

When have I ever assumed we had an alliance? I may have jokingly gotten upset if you attacked me due to OLDK solidarity, but that hardly translates to an actual alliance (which, prior to the last game, the only time I've ever had one is with Zerg in Game 3 or whatever that was).

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3) I hid nothing, and you know that. I made that alliance after you were already off AIM, and I figured I would just tell you the next day. Then I woke up to find Plarom nearly dead and a PM in my inbox telling me to finish him off. I'm not gonna bother quoting the following exchange, but you talked me into taking him out despite my protests that I wasn't keen on breaking the alliance so quickly. I did because you reminded me that I'd get his stuff and that Nutty would do it if I didn't. Don't give me that "drop of a hat" stuff, Mr. C'mooooon.

Don't try to use lack of communication as an excuse for not telling me about your alliance with Plarom. You could have just left me a PM saying you had made an alliance (though I'm wondering why you're making alliances behind my back in the first place), especially considering you knew my turn would be coming up soon. Or you know, you could have told me beforehand that you were making an alliance with him, like how I told you I wanted to bring nutty into our alliance before we even had one. This just reeks of secret backstabbing alliance.

And don't act like you're revealing insider information, as I've already told Plarom that I'm the one who urged you to finish him off. Quote whatever PMs you want, but all the involved parties already know about it, so it'll just make you look more pathetic (trying to drag me down just because you lost, seriously?). And sorry, but persuading you to break your alliance with two PMs counts as drop of a hat to me. You had no problem skewing your moral compass once I reminded you that you'd get his stuff, so any hesitation before that was due to your own lack of remembering the rules, not because you were so eager to keep your alliance.

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And yes, I do believe it's time I revived the :Trigrudge:. Looks like you're joining Yeldarb on there.

If you're seriously gonna stick me on the same level as Yeldarb, go ahead. I don't need silly grudges to make myself feel better for things that are clearly my own fault.

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

This strikes a chord with my funny bone Rock, coming from you of all people

What, you mean because Tritoch and I betrayed you after we found out you were playing us against each other? I've never initiated a betrayal of any alliance I've had, and in this case I only betrayed you at all because you did so first.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

What can I say, I'm bored, and it seemed like a fun argument to make. We have to make people believe that Team Devin is collapsing unto itself, for full effect and all.

CAVE BUDDIES 4 LIFE!

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Let's see, there's three of us left, you strike a deal with me not to attack you, you strike a deal with Tritoch not to attack you, so that doesn't leave much choice for us. I'd call that playing us against each other, especially since you never mentioned to me you had a deal with Tritoch, and vice versa. You essentially made it seem like it was you and me vs. Tritoch, while at the same time giving Tritoch the idea that it was you and him vs. me.

You can try and play subtle all you want, but when it comes down to it you played us, we found out, and we turned the tables on you and bested you (giving birth to the :zergrudge: ).

I've watched 18 seasons of Survivor, so I know when to call a spade a spade.

And don't worry about my chances of winning. I mean, it's not like I honestly care, especially after what happened in the last game (as Tritoch stated, I'm almost as much of a target as he was). I've honestly only gotten this far out of sheer luck anyway (that GOOD OL' ROCK defense), as I've never been much of a strategist (but hey, at least I don't have to create a :rockgrudge: after my plans go awry).

How ya doing, buddy?

Um, I'm pretty sure that was your plan, you just never got to enact it because we found out about your scheme and turned the tables on you before you could.

And sorry, but I still fail to see the irony, as the situations are hardly similar. You seem to be missing the point that you screwed me before I ever turned on you, so I hardly see how that makes me a bad person to ally with and thus ironic for me to say that about Tritoch.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Sorry, but if you strike a deal with me and then turn around and strike that same deal with someone else, you don't have my interests in mind (contrary to what you had me believe) and thus you're screwing me. You honestly think I would have made the deal with you if I knew you were gonna turn around and make it with Tritoch (or if you made it with him first, and then tried to make it with me)? Your problem is that you're asserting "throwing the first punch" as being a physical attack against your territories, but as I see it as soon as Tritoch and I figured out what you were doing it was still an attack against us in the sense that you went back on your word (call it whatever you want, but I still considered it an alliance).

As for the most recent game, the facts stand that Tritoch won and I took second place. No alliance, agreement, pact, or whatever you want to call it is so ironclad that it can change the nature of the game so that there is more than one winner, so in that sense I feel I still won. We made an alliance and we were the last two standing, so our alliance won, plain and simple. Though I may not have agreed with some of Tritoch's actions, it still doesn't change the fact that we won.

So basically, it's kind of silly to sit here and put words in my mouth, or at least not fully read what I said. You may have thought we were "unreliable partners", but nowhere did I say that he was. Sure I gave reasons why it would be harmful for me to ally with him, and I gave reasons why I felt he was untrustworthy, but neither of those things make him unreliable. He still held up his part of our alliance (he could make all the secret deals behind my back he wanted to, but as long as they weren't harmful to me (like yours was) then then he's still not breaking his word), so as far as I'm concerned he's still reliable. Why else would I say I'd still ally with him despite all that (right there in my second point)?

But all this back-and-forth is getting us nowhere, as we're both just gonna keep sticking to our own viewpoints. We've already cluttered the thread with enough talk of the past, so I'm through with the subject.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Why do we need a thread split? You're down to arguing semantics at this point, and as I said before, there's not really much point in keeping this going.

Also, lolling at seeing you try to define OLDK and the like, especially considering you didn't even get the name right.

I was speaking idiomatically.

4 Dice Rolls Utah

First attack on Wyoming.

Next is Idaho.

Then comes Utah.

Eh, I still got what I needed, so time to get some tanks rolling into Utah, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Kentucky.

EDIT: Shit, I had to do a double take there, as I thought I was screwed. Nutty, you still have West Virginia listed under Dullenplain in the spreadsheet even though you used your tanks to take it over back during your first turn (which the map accurately reflects).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

4 Dice Rolls Oklahoma 2

Araes, you have to have 9 adjoining states in order to have Warlord status. You had the numbers, just not the adjoining part.

As for my turn, I'll start off with an attack on Missouri.

Next is Oklahoma.

Well, so my turn won't be a complete waste, I'll use the Tanks I have on Oklahoma and buy some more to use on Texas.

FELIPE NO

4 Dice Rolls Iowa 3

Minnesota first.

Iowa next.

Fine, Tanks to Iowa and South Dakota.

Also, trading Oklahoma to Nutty for Arkansas.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

4 Dice Rolls New Mexico

Eh, I know I don't stand a chance at winning at this point, but no one bows out of Risk gracefully. So now it's time to attack as I flail my arms wildly.

First attack on Oklahoma.

Next, gotta reclaim the homeland (Texas).

And eh, why not, New Mexico.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

I've adjusted the gil to include the daily 5, and Warlord payouts for Hawkeye and Araes both.

Okay, I have to ask when did the rule change to give out payments for Warlord status at the beginning of the day rather than at the beginning of someone's turn as the rules state? Not that it matters this late in the game, but it would have helped people out earlier, and at the same time it's kinda unfair to those whose turn is at the beginning of a rotation as opposed to those whose turn is at the end of a rotation.

(Or I could just be reading too much into it and you're just giving it to Araes now because you're lazy)

There's nowhere I can't reach.

4 Dice Rolls Tennessee

You can take me down, just don't take me out of Texas.

And for the hell of it, Tennessee.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

4 Dice Rolls Utah 2

Since I have no allegiance to either of you, I really don't care who I attack. Ain't nothing personal Hawkeye, but I want to back a winner.

Attacking New Mexico.

And now, Utah.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?