Revolution or Evolution?

Originally Posted by Elixir

They haven't managed to ruin MGS or DMC.

Um, right. So are we just forgetting MGS2 and DMC2 because they sucked in most people's books, then? I think both series are pretty overrated, anyways. I own every Metal Gear game, and personally I prefer the original NES version over all the others. Hell, I like MGS for GBA better than 1 and 2.

Originally Posted by Elixir

Square is known for quality. Alot of their games are worthwhile, bar a few. Sure, you can complain about VIII as much as you like, but you can't complain about any of the others for any length of time.

Haha, wow. No, I could complain about just about any of them for any length of time. Of course, let's just disregard the fact that it's entirely subjective, because you seem to prefer to do that a lot.

Originally Posted by Elixir

I didn't play it for very long, mind you, but Sunshine was just horrid in my view.

Originally Posted by Elixir

I didn't play it for very long, mind you, but Sunshine was just horrid in my view.

Originally Posted by Elixir

I didn't play it for very long, mind you, but Sunshine was just horrid in my view.

I did play it for very long, mind you, and Sunshine was just awesome in my view. About as good as Mario 64; they each had their ups and downs. Mario Sunshine's level design isn't as good, but that's actually because it has better gameplay - but gameplay that relies on water. Mario Sunshine is actually more difficult than Mario 64. It also has the Warp Zones, which are far more awesome than anything in Mario 64.

Mario 128, which for a long time had been rumored to come out towards the end of the Gamecube's lifespan, is now purportedly a Revolution launch title. Of course, it instantly sucks because it uses a controller you have never used and hate.

I can't argue that the Mario Party series aren't milking Mario out, but that's about it. So I don't buy them or play them, apparently some people do and enjoy them. Who cares. I don't particularly like sports games in general, but I find the Mario sports titles to be a helluva lot less boring than others. Not that I've ever even personally bought one of them.

And of course, let's not even mention the Mario and Luigi games, because they're kickass awesome.

Lastly, in case you forgot, your beloved Square-Enix is making Mario Basketball for the DS. SUP. NOW.

Originally Posted by Elixir

they'd actually have games worth playing on the Gamecube.

Oh, okay, so since I own 40+ Gamecube and 6 PS2 games I consider worth playing, I guess I must be living in an alternate dimension or something. One where people can have opinions.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Hahaha, oh yes, I'm such a victim of having games that I enjoy. Those numbers are after trading in the ones I didn't like, mind you. I would actually feel like a victim, however, if I had to pay for as many PS2's as my sister has just to have a working one, or had I bought most of the PS2 games I've played.

Oh, and good job avoiding everything else I said.

Originally Posted by Elixir

What they're doing is quite simple. Nintendo are selling out. They have been, and post-1997 they've done so more. Every company does this, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS NINTENDO.

Because, as everyone knows, unlike other companies, Nintendo totally tries to appeal to casual gamers with sex/gore/violence, and will allow any crappy game made by any developer onto their systems. That certainly isn't selling out by any means.

Originally Posted by chaofan

Who here wouldn't mind just a visual upgrade (and advanced gameplay/physics engines)?

Meh, I'm pretty satisfied with graphics the way they are now, no need to pay hundreds of dollards (and thousand(s) for an HDTV) just so I can have slightly shinier graphics. Maybe in a few years when there's better technology.

As far as advanced gameplay goes, that's what we'll be getting with Revolution.

More enemies on screen/better AI would certainly be nice to have, but as far as physics go the Source Engine is more than capable, and that ran on Xbox.

There's nowhere I can't reach.