[Wii] Official Nintendo Wii thread

Not that you'd be paying that much less for controllers for one of the other next-gen systems. 360 wireless controllers are $50 each, and if Microsoft can get away with such a rip-off, you know Sony's not going to do any less. I mean, it's got the TILT function. That HAS to be expensive, right? At least you get what you're paying for with a Wiimote.

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Ahaha, the PS3 controller worth more than a Wiimote? How laughable. Gyroscopes aren't exactly cutting edge or expensive these days, unlike the accelerometer in the Wiimote. Not to mention the fact that the Wiimote has true rumble, a speaker, IR, and built-in memory, if only 6 kb.

Not that you know what the Six Axis CAD price will be, yet, either, the price has only been announced in yen and no one knows if that will roughly translate. And everything I've seen would seem to indicate that the Wiimote + nunchuk CAD price will be closer to $71. Even if the prices you listed are accurate, the 90 more CAD 3 Wii controllers would cost you still kind of pales in comparison to the 380 more CAD the PS3 costs compared to the Wii. Either way, I'm glad I don't live in Canada.

As far as the Li-Ion batteries go, I hold them in about the same regard as regular rechargable batteries. They do last longer, but once they do die out they're much more of a hassle to replace.

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Originally Posted by Slayer X

The playstation controller has been the best controller for three generations, so I don't know how you can say that it's flawed. Everyone knows that K&M is the best ways to play FPS games at the moment. I never dismissed the Wii controller, but to say that it's going to be better then K&M before it's even out is jumping the gun a bit.

Three generations? Jumping the gun a bit, no? Also, he did say "it really could be better," not "it really will be better."

And there is this thing called opinion. While I found the PS1 controller was a lot more comfortable than the N64's, I find the PS2 controller pretty uncomfortable compared to the Gamecube's. I tend to use the analog stick a lot more than the D-pad, and the PS2's is not in a good position. Button placement can go either way, it depends on the game.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

There's lots of great FPS games on the consoles that you can't even get on the PC.

Like...? Honestly, I can't think of any since Perfect Dark. None that compare well to PC FPS's, anyways.

$1600? Pffft, maybe if you're buying some piece of crap pre-built Dell system. Thanks to rebates, I've never spent more than $200 on an upgrade and I've always been able to run new games quite handily. Not at the absolute highest graphics settings, mind you, but well enough.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Dictionary.com

Lapel - noun - either of the two parts of a garment folded back on the chest, esp. a continuation of a coat collar.

And of course you bring up fighting games. And yet, Soul Caliber 2, which was pretty much the only fighting game worth buying for Gamecube, was mapped brilliantly to its buttons. Oh, and it was cross-platform, imagine that. Like Hell I'd have played, say, Beyond Good and Evil or Viewtiful Joe with a PS2 controller. And I wish I could have played Shadow of the Collosus and MGS3 with a GCN controller. Quite frankly, the only game I've ever played that's particularly better with a PS2 controller over GCN is Mega Man Anniversary Collection.

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Wow. I called last night and had been told that the nearest Gamestop would have 30 preorders available, so I thought there was no need to go get in line hours early. Big mistake. I got there at 10 am, and there was a line of at least 30 people outside. Factoring in that at least a few employees were also probably taking up a handful of them, I turned around and headed home without even getting out of my car.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by SCHNEE-3

Of course, where all of those Wii console boxes are in that display, they WON'T be there in the real display. They'll all be locked up in the big ol Console Cage that most stores have nowadays.

Except that's Best Buy's display stand - and last I checked, they do display game boxes like that, inside of locked plastic boxes.

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Originally Posted by Grawl

For those who have the thing - how hard was it to set the connection with the internet up and how does the updating take place?

Incredibly easy, and a helluva lot easier than it was with my DS. Downloaded the update; took about five minutes, then the Wii had to restart. But then after that, it did another update that took another five minutes.

I haven't had any time to play anything yet except a few games of Wii Sports, but it's a blast. It even looks a lot better than I expected; leagues above Gamecube. Particularly, it's very smooth; must be at least 4X AA.

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Originally Posted by chaofan

PLEASE!!! Anyone got an answer to how many saves can be had for Wii's internal memory?

My guess is a lot. When managing in the Wii menu, it's still measured in Nintendo's cryptic "blocks," like Gamecube. Zelda takes 1 block, WiiSports takes 2, Red Steel uses 3 and ExciteTruck is 4. After that, I've got 5,124 blocks left. Since I doubt I'll ever buy any VC games, I doubt I'll ever be in need of save space.

Originally Posted by garthvadr3

anyone get Red Steel? I was wondering about first hand impressions cause reveiws have been mixed. I am interested in getting this one when I get my Wii.

For starters, it seems like some people just "get" the controls, and some don't. If possible, you probably want to try the game out before buying to make sure. Personally, I find the controls easy, if not completely intuitive. A lot better than using a regular console controller for a FPSer, but still not as easy as a keyboard+mouse.

That said, I think the overall 7/10 average between all the reviews is a fair score. And I'd say it's not because of the controls, but because of a bunch of little flaws, and the lackluster swordfights.

Most of all, the way your health completely regenerates if you duck out of combat for a few moments is beyond unrealistic (wtf? Am I Wolverine?). Only being able to hold two guns at a time, while realistic, is something that no FPSer should have. Multiplayer needs bots. The load times are pretty long. Music is sometimes really good, and sometimes really bad (ugh jpop).

The game does have a lot of good going for it, too. AI is pretty good; enemies take cover and move to new cover if they think it's safe, and sometimes retreat if you kill their buddies (while yelling "Murderer!", lol. Some of the things they say are really funny). While some of the older screenshots looked like N64, the finished product is definitely above Gamecube. Good level design, with a fair amount of interaction with background stuff.

If the swordfighting were better, this game would be a solid 8/10. Even going in knowing it would be gesture based and not 1:1, I'm disappointed. As it is, it just feels like a timing based minigame. Parry, attack, parry, attack, repeat until win. Although, being able to stab your opponents during a gunfight if you're close enough to them is always fun.

Overall, it's a fun experience, but still rough and unpolished. At any rate, I think I'd prefer it to Call of Duty 3 just for not being yet another WW2 game.

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Friday is what I've heard for the second shipment.

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Originally Posted by Slayer X

Five years from now it's possible that the Wii may no longer be able to stand up against the 360 & PS3 after they hit $300

But by the same token, by then the Wii will be dirt cheap - I could easily see it being $50-$100 by then, and $20-$30 for a Wiimote+Nunchuk. If it really catches on with the non-gamer crowd, and early evidence seems to indicate that it has a good chance, it could practically be a househould item when it hits that price range.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

however all three Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft have all said that the Wii is kind of on it's own. No one is going to buy a 360 or PS3 over a Wii if that's what they want. Just like no one is going to buy a Wii over the other two if they want amazing graphics, online play along with HD & 5.1 audio. So while they may be in competition for the casual gamer, they are in two different fields when it comes to the fulltime gamer.

Sounds a lot like what's been said about DS vs. PSP. Of course, before both were out, Sony and analysts were saying "No contest, PSP will steamroll the DS." When the reality turned out to be the opposite, Sony reps responded with "Well, you can't really even count them as competitors."

The fact of the matter is, even if they have differing target audiences and offer different experiences, they're still competing video game consoles. And, you know, the Wii is capable of online play, and arguably "amazing graphics," if not HD graphics - there's a difference. However, the former requires a lot more effort on the part of developers.

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Er, no, I don't believe the Wii can change your TV channel.

Originally Posted by SuperDK

I believe the only way to quit though is to shut it off, meaning you have no way to get back to the menu.

No, this is what the Home button is for. Not only can it take you back to the Wii menu, but also to disconnet/connect Wiimotes, and as a pause button at any time.

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Originally Posted by SuperDK

You mean while you're playing a GC game? Yeah, and my above post is all screwed up, so what I really meant was while you're playing a GC game. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Oh, no, not while you're playing a GC game. Didn't know that's what you were talking about.

IGN's put up an Elebits preview today, looks like an awesome game. Huzzah for gravity guns!

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While that's not what I'd call a particularly trustworthy source, it's pretty possible. Not so much for MP3, since Retro Studios should be able to get that out, but moreso for Mario and Phantom Hourglass.

If it does happen, I'd say the reasoning is not only polishing but to hold back some big titles for the 2007 holiday season. It's not like the Wii has lack of awesome games, anyways, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to hold out on a couple more Zelda playthroughs, WiiSports, Trauma Center, ExciteTruck, Rayman, Elebits, Pokemon Battle Revolution, WarioWare, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Fire Emblem, Dragon Quest Swords, Super Paper Mario, and Crystal Chronicles. I wouldn't be surpised if Bob Ross, Battalion Wars 2, Resident Evil, and Mario Strikers Charged make it out in 2007, as well. Besides, the really important thing is when Brawl comes out...

I could also list a bunch of great DS games coming out next year, but Phoenix Wright 2 in January is all I need to know.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ah, I hadn't heard about that. Which is odd, since I was using Gamespot to check release dates, and they still have it listed as "TBA." Which might be more accurate than "cancelled," but you'd think they could list it as "on hold" or something like that.

Oh, and I forgot Mario Party 8. I haven't been interested in any of them since 2, but the Wiimote might manage to make things fun again.

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Originally Posted by chaofan

That's alright. A try before you buy thing always clicks with me.

How exactly is it try before you buy? Either you get it completely free before the end of June, or you pay for it after June.

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Oh, heh, now I see what you were trying to say. Pretty much anyone getting this "trial," though, will be getting the free download, unless they manage to forget about it for three months.

And yeah, 28Link, it's a one-time 500 point purchase, and that's only if you don't get if free before July.

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Originally Posted by Slayer X

Looks like Metroid & Mario are being pushed back to Q4 '07. Can't say I'm all that surprised really, as much as it sucks...

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=7361

a) Welcome to yesterday.
b) Still just a rumor from a none-too-reliable source
c) They are British, and could just be talking about PAL

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Ahaha, my brother and his friend were just playing ExciteTruck to Bananaphone, read off an SD card. I didn't know any Wii games could do that just yet.

If only the game had four player multiplayer and cpu controlled trucks in multiplayer, it would be the apex of awesome. =/

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Both nexgenwars and vgcharts aren't particularly reliable, but at least vgcharts has sources. The truth probably lies somewhere inbetween; either way, I don't think there's much of a chance of them reaching their "4 million by the end of the year" target. Still, fairly respectable given the sales records the Wii has set.

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Considering Elebits already doesn't work this way, this seems odd. At any rate, the article doesn't say anything about codes, just lists. Perhaps once someone is already on your Wii Friend List, you simply need to select them in-game to add them.

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