Revolution or Evolution?

Originally Posted by Elixir

That's more than likely an indication that you didn't read what I said.

Mario has sold out, and you know damn well that he has. Your argument of "Snake is in another game" and "Dante is in a mangled(lol, wrong) version of Viewtiful Joe on the PS2" doesn't live up. A couple of gaming mascots appearing in different games is insignificant to the amount of genres Mario has and what Nintendo have made him into - a cash project.

It isn't meaningless at all. I apologize if I hurt your Nintendo pride, but Mario is in every genre possible, or close to. Congratulations on failing to deliver, and dishing out rubbish that only a typical fanboy would produce.

gb2/warproom

You're a fucking tard. This is the Warp Room.

I believe the point of of any company to make money. A cash project is always a good thing.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by Elixir

There is no such thing as a handheld console. It's a handheld, that's it. Consoles and handhelds are too different, otherwise you would be calling the N-Gage a console as well. And that makes no sense.

Not true. The N-Gage is a handheld console. Handheld is a pretty vague term. A dildo can be handheld. Does that mean a dildo is a handheld console?

Originally Posted by Elixir

Half of the stuff you replied to wasn't for you anyway. Nintendogs is basically an advanced tamigotchi simulator, and I'm pretty sure others can see and think that for themselves. It just feels like a borrowed idea.

What ISN'T a borrowed idea? Answer me that.

Originally Posted by Elixir

You don't see many of those these days. Gran Turismo is a racing simulator, and you see hundreds of them. Why? I don't know, perhaps because they're popular - but that would bring me to my next question - Nintendogs is popular, but because it's treated as a Nintendo game, and "unique", it sells well. Not only is that a great reason to point the finger at Nintendo, but it also shows that you can rehash any popular product which has died and make it popular again without even taking into consideration people's views.

Who cares about people's views, ultimately YOUR VIEWS. The game sells, people love it, Nintendo stays in business. It's what a company does. Do you not fucking understand this? No company wants to go bankrupt, especially to satisfy a bitchy, whiny New Zealander.

Next time they'll try harder, just for you.

Originally Posted by Elixir

Ultimately, Nintendogs is a rehashed idea of the Tamagotchi. It's true.

Outside of japan, how many "Train a ____, level a _____, grow a _____" games do you see? Of course there's Pokemon which is by Nintendo, and of course RPGs don't count. So, how many pet levelling/training simulators are on the PS2 and xbox? Not many, if any. If there ARE any, they're probably still inside japan.

How many handheld console games have you seen where you RAISE A DOG?

Originally Posted by Elixir

Getting back to the point I was trying to make - Nintendogs wasn't an original idea like he said it was. It was basically yet again, another project to earn money. Take a simple idea, add some content, don't overdo it, and make it replayability, and you have katamaria great game which appeals to basically everybody in the entire universe. That doesn't mean to say it hasn't been done before, though.

So what if it's been done before? There's tons of skyscrapers but only one Empire State Building. Get my drift?

Originally Posted by Elixir

I'm not trying to derail, troll, or offend anybody here. Nobody can seem to grasp the fact that Nintendo have milked Mario and concepts in the past and have gotten away with it. What does this say for the Revolution? Not much, considering it'll be the 3rd parties that make the quality this time, not Mr. "2 quality games per year" Miyamoto.

EVERYBODY in the game industry milks it. Get over it. Quit bitching.

Your points hold no actual ground.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by surasshu

What is this about Dr. Mario being a Tetris clone.

I think this is about Dr. Mario not being a real Doctor and prescribing prescriptions of MILK which ultimately satisfied his patients.

But that doesn't seem to matter.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Elixir

NO other company has milked their characters as much as Nintendo.

What other gaming companies have been around just as long as Nintendo and have a mascot?

Twas what I thought.

So what? Do you think they're going to make a new soccer game and put random characters in it? No, they're going to put Nintendo characters in it. Big deal. Everybody knows who the Nintendo characters are. That's why they do it.

It's not milking, it's familiarity.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by Elixir

Are you seriously trying to say that RPGs are a borrowed idea from the tamagotchi? Because that's what you're implying. RPGs don't count simply because there are only a very small portion of RPGs which let you raise animals. Nintendogs is a borrowed idea and is nothing original. It doesn't matter how popular it is, it's an advanced tamagotchi simulator.

There's always Animal Crossing, but nobody but myself probably would of thought of that considering it's a Nintendo release. See how biased this is?

When did I imply that? Did you not read my post?

I didn't say RPGs or animals. I said a DOG.

I never denied that it was an advanced tamagotchi simulator. I said "There's lots of skyscrapers but only one Empire State Building." Meaning, there's lots of games in a genre, but only a few that stand out.

RPGs are just an advanced ripoff of Akalabeth or Adventure.

WHAT NOW?

Thank you for taking everything out of context and being a fucktard. It's appreciated.
Thank you for letting all of us know that you can read.
Thank you for drawing your own conclusions as to what people say.
Thank you for ignoring everybody's points.
Thank you for continuing this arguement based on what you think I say.
Thank you so much.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Elixir

Uhh, Namco and their Pacman immediately comes to mind. Pacman's been Namco's mascot before Nintendo even existed. Sega was also around before Nintendo, and they still have Sonic, so.

You said "characters" not "character". Bing. Bang. Boom.

Originally Posted by Elixir

There's not many pet/animal simulators out there, and Nintendogs struck it lucky. That doesn't mean that there's hundreds of pet simulators out there - and from the hundreds of pet simulators, Nintendogs shines. No, it's not like that at all. There's hundreds if not thousands of racing games, and Fortz and Gran Turismo stand out. You can't honestly compare racing games to pet simulators.

Have you PLAYED Nintendogs? Who CARES if it's a ripoff as you say. It sells. People love it. It's good.

EDIT: Where the hell did racing games come from? What the fuck are you on about man? Speak fucking English and stay to the point. If you fucking want to talk in circles, go for it. But not many of us here, especially me, will care to talk in fucking circles around somebody who refuses to get the point.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Elixir

Whether they have spinoffs or not is irrelevant. The game was not original. Now he claims that he didn't mention anything about originality, but..

Quick question, dipshit.

Did I say that to you? No. So why respond to him when responding to me? If you're talking to me, address me. If you're talking to him, address him.

Common sense.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Elixir

You asked where the racing concept came from, and I told you. Common sense.

Common sense is not talking to somebody about a completely different subject you were discussing with somebody else and using that completely off-topic and out of context in an arguement.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Oh rather, your posts will vanish. Seriously guys, get back to the original topic.

So Mario ISNT evolving?

DAMN YOU NINTENDO. YOU LIED TO ME.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Nintendo has existed since 1889. So to stop you from spreading anymore lies I'm afraid I'm going to have to ban you from the gaming forums and the sewers for a week. Enjoy the other forums and try not to fuck things up over there too. ^__^

Guys, resume the original discussion. Thanks.

Not be off-topic... But...



What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?