[General Discussion] Is Sonic losing his speed?

I've played Sonic games since the day I read the comics and watch the animated series in 1994. But lately, the games & the hedgehog himself have taken a turn for the worst in my opinion.

In beginning of the last year both SEGA & Nintendo were working together to make the 2008 Olympics game "Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games" which was good, but it wasn't all about the speed blue dude. After that, they recently came out with the first ever RPG version of Sonic called "Sonic Chronicles" and what made this game go "WTH", it was the fact that they turned Eggman into an ally, not the main villain. Once the DS game came out, so did "Sonic UNLeashed", now I hated the fact that SEGA had turned the hedgehog into what he's now being called as a "Werehog". I mean they really did it with another bad gimmick like with Sonic 06. Now what I like about the game was the day time levels that were almost good enough to say that it was just the thing to keep the speedy blue hedgehog going & going. But was really disappointed with the gameplay for the night time levels which it was like playing "Shadow the Hedgehog" with the Werehog looking like a cheep version of "Crash Bandicoot", and the attacks like "God of War". Almost none of this stuff was not original, and that should have never been introduced.

Even since the "Sonic Adventures" era, I stop playing the games until when they made a game all about the "Bad-Boy" version of Sonic "Shadow the Hedgehog" which wasn't has good as "Adventure", but the storylines were incredible. On the part of which side should Shadow be, Good or Bad, you made his fates by playing the game in a certain way to know what the outcome was going be. With now, the Black Knight out has made the facts clear that SEGA no longer wants to care about their original mascot any more. I mean they care more about "Condemned", "House of the Dead", and some others that aren't about Sonic at all. What do you guys think?

For me, I'll enjoy with watch all the sonic shows I haven't seen all the way, including the comics as well. Also playing the Adventure games too.



I've found some interesting articles & videos about this topic and they are

• (Article) The Great Sonic Continuity Debate by "Milo Amberlight"
  (Forum Topic) Sonic the Hedgehog Bible by "Nemesis"
  (Video Documentary) GameTap's Retrospective: Sonic the Hedgehog by "GameTap Inc."
  (Video Debate) GAME OVERTHINKER v21 presents, SONIC IN CRISIS: PART I by "moviebob"
  (Video Debate) GAME OVERTHINKER v22 presents, SONIC IN CRISIS: PART II by "moviebob"

How ya doing, buddy?

Sonic 06 was trying to be epic like DragonBall Z or Final Fantasy, but it sucked. All though, did bring in "Silver" who was almost cool and the "well-done" CGI movies to make up for the game's creditability. If you haven't read the article about more problems with Sonic, you should, it is completely sound.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I had no idea that they were being "Copycats" to idea that was from Nintendo, and that right there proves some of my points. SEGA doesn't want to be original, anymore.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Here a sample of the one article that pretty much explains all questions on the continuing problems with Sonic

The Great Sonic Debate:

Research Article: The Great Sonic Continuity Debate
3/09 - Written by Milo Amberlight

Sonic Team LogoAh, the continuity debate. Which version of Sonic is the real one? It's one of the most controversial and misunderstood subjects in the Sonic the Hedgehog fan base, yet also one of the most fascinating and fundamental to its existence. Whenever a question arises regarding the legitimacy, officiality, or canonicity of a particular piece of Sonic media (game, TV show, or comic), it invariably results in tension, gnashing of teeth, and—of course—the proverbial flame war. It is a veritable mine field of a topic, at times simply avoided or banned from discussion altogether.

Why? For one, human beings are sentimental creatures. On one side we have the fans who grew up with the Sonic of the early 90s, many of whom recall fondly the days of the "Freedom Fighters," "planet Mobius," "Dr. Robotnik," "Chili dogs," and clever catchphrases like "way past cool." On the other side, we have a newer generation of fans, more familiar with "Dr. Eggman," "Shadow the Hedgehog," "Station Square," "Blaze the Cat," and "Chaos Control." Of course, I am simplifying a bit for the sake of brevity. There are many different persuasions of Sonic fans, and not all fans fit neatly into these two categories. You may be a self-proclaimed games purist, or perhaps even a universal fan who enjoys just about anything with the name "Sonic" on it. That said, the idea is the same: we tend to reject what we don't know and cling to what we do.

Motivation aside, some fans take the disparities between different depictions of the Sonic universe to mean that certain games, publications, or cartoons should not be counted as part of the Sonic "canon" (list of genuine or accepted material). An example of this is the common use of the term "SegaSonic"* to delineate products viewed to be part of the "one true/official continuity," from "unofficial" material created outside of Sega or Sonic Team. In reality, this is an over simplification—a somewhat narrow-minded one—that ignores the vast majority of Sonic media, past and present.

So how did the Sonic franchise get to be such a seemingly inconsistent and contradictory mess of characters, locations, and stories? To really understand the nature of this debate, it's necessary to delve into a bit of history. Let's start with Sega itself.

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Ever since the Retro day's of Sonic, the stories have been contently changing. But I'm surprised that the comic has always adjust the changes of Sonic & Friends stories from the games or by thought.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Axelrod :punch: Axelrod

You know, if you're interested in the Sonic comics, one of our members works on them all the time. I'm sure if you sent him a PM he'd love to discuss any ideas you might have. You know, for story ideas and things like that.

Here is his profile

Yes, I'm definitely interested in the comics so I'll give him PM later this week. Just soon if I think of something good I would like to add the comic book series. Thanks for the "heads-up" on this topic.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

O,no, dude. All I was going to say is "I can't Believe that this comic book series has lasted an decade after the first 3 games were released, I've been lacking in the stories so I'm going back to the beginning and read my way to the current state of the comics. PS: Have you guys there at Archie comics made a record for you long running comic book series? Your comics can "in way" beat the games anytime. Congrats."

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Here's a guys idea for a new look on Sonic's Story

Spoiler:

Here it is

PS: I think this Sonic story is very original & epic.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Garr

Honest to God, does a Sonic plot need to be any more complex than this? Going back to basics would do the series a HUGE fucking favor, back when it was all about running really fast, bouncing on springs, destroying robotic crabs, collecting rings and wrecking Robotnik's shit.

Now we've got fucking hedgethugs running around with twin gats. What the fuck happened here?

I didn't say wasn't a good idea, buts a start. Can anyone here come up with a better story this one, this is my challenge to everyone here?

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(hell, still waiting for a Sonic the hedgehog LA movie...its gonna happen, I know it)

I've been told its not going to happen until SEGA gets their mess straiten out.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

How about a story just about Sonic alone, to get things moving? Before all the other charters came in to play.

There's nowhere I can't reach.