[Wii] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Discussion Thread

I'm not surprised that it is delayed. I never expected it to be just after the end of March. Although waiting 'till fall is indeed a bit long. Then again, during the fall the weather is more likely to be rainy, cold and nasty than in the summer. Bad weather means staying inside, means playing games!
I'm so looking forward to this game. I'm sure I'll have a great time with it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Those videos were excellent! My only fear was that perhaps the game music wasn't up to par. Oot and MM had great game music, but I found tWW somewhat lacking. After hearing the boss music (with a reference to the fire boss music in Oot ) and the victory music, my last fears are just washed away! I'm extremely looking forward to this game, the gameplay; the graphics all look very nice. The release date couldn't come sooner....

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Phatcorns

Anybody got better scans of the article?

yup. Check out this website:
http://gallery.zeldalegends.net/disp...lbum=844&pos=3

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, I agree to most things that have been said already (especially the remarks by Prime Blue, except his comments about the music). Anyway here are my two cents.

Spoiler:

Pros:
- Awesome weapons;
- Beautiful graphics;
- Although not original dungeons, their general layout was very nice (the ice dungeon was particularly original). Except for the temple in the sky and the twilight caste, I didn't really like those designs;
- Wolf form link was very fun to play (way better than I expected);
- Character design and design in general was very nice;
- The music was good. I especially liked the fact that the music changed during particularly events (when the boss is down for example);
- Midna was a fun character, also way better than I expected;
- Nearly ten dungeons, although very easy to beat;
- The one to one sword battle and the horseback battle with Ganon was very fun. Definitely the best Ganon battle yet;
- The cave of ordeals. Basically the same as that thing in the wind waker. I actually died on the fiftieth floor (the last one)! I hadn't died since MM, so it was a pleasure to finally have something difficult again in a Zelda game;

Cons:
I thought the game was awesome but it has one fatal flaw. It's way WAY to easy. It took me 54 hour to finish the game, but that takes into account all the side quest. I could have easily beaten the game under 30 hours. I didn't get stuck once (nor did I in the wind waker for that matter), and the boss battles (though excellent design) were just laughable. I mean come one, a boss battle is the accumulation of all the energy you put into the completion of the dungeon. I mean, I only died once! See also my remarks in my pros section.
I also agree to the comments made that the end was either rushed or incomplete. Indeed, why did Ganon kidnap Zelda? Why was there no character development for Zelda, Ganon and hardly any for that Zora prince? Etc.
All this accumulates into one thing: the game is excellent, but very unrewarding. I never felt the urge to save Hyrule. I didn't seem to be in so much trouble after all the twilight clears (except of course for Hyrule Castle). I mean in OoT and MM I really wanted to save their respective lands. I wanted to do this especially in OoT, because all the lands that you grew familiar with during your time as a child were corrupted in adult form. I missed this in TP. I also missed emotion or atmosphere in the game. ALttP, LA, OoT, MM all had a general mood when played. OoT and MM had a lot of character development and cutscene's where emotion was involved. I mean just look at the moments were Saria gives you your ocarina. And where Anju (in MM) sits alone in here chamber, near the end of the third day, waiting for the inevitable destruction. Examples a-plenty. Though, on TP's defence there are some nice scene's with Ilia.

All in all a good game (defiantly better than WW) but still not better than OoT.

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Originally Posted by Cellius

People say the boss battles are too easy, but I think it's more accurate to say they've become WAY too predictable. Before the fight even starts, you've already laid out your strategy:
1. Locate glowing body part.
2. Knock beast down with item found in respective dungeon so glowing part is accessible to sword.
3. Attack with sword.
4. Repeat two more times.

The entire dungeon formula is due for a complete overhaul.

I agree with you on the part of being predictable. But I think that is also part of us (or at least me) being old Zelda players. I mean, we figure out most of the puzzles, simply because we know how to do them. I wonder what someone who played the game for the first time found of its difficulty. Though I must say that familiar Zelda elements are part of its charm. I don't think the games would quite as fun if they constantly changed the basic game mechanics as (in a small way) the Final Fantasy games have done between games. On top of that, I always found the game boy games (with the exception of TMC) to be pretty challenging.

That said, I don't think the predictability of the bosses is the major issue of being easy (though partly responsible), but the fact that it was very easy to avoid their attacks and even if you got hit you lost minimal hearts. I mean I got sucked up by

Spoiler:

the boss of the water temple, Morpheel

and I lost ONE heart. I mean come on! That should at least have cost me half my life (as it did when Morpha grabbed you in OoT). The music changing part as Cobalt Katze describes it was indeed excellent addition! I hope they keep that in the next installments.

I think I'm going for the three heart challenge the second play through. It makes the game so much harder I think.

On the matter of the dungeons, did you notice that you could only get one small key at a time? That makes it very easy to use them. Just located the door with the key chain and you're done. Most of the times, the small key was in the same room! In all the other Zelda games you at least should check if there weren't any other keys that you might have missed, because you don't want to open a door, walk for 15 minutes and then discover that you had missed at least one small key (Water temple OoT anyone?)

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LOL AcerBandit

@naturally_tipsy: You can find a lot of ripped music (and links to ripped music threads) of Twilight princess here: http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/au...ncess-ost.html

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by The_Griffin

Yeah.

Oh, and I just thought of something that would make the game so friggin' hard.

No Z-target challenge.

A good suggestion! I tried this as well yesterday. Damn, that makes the game really hard, especially around those bats. I actually died in the first temple because of them! Let's see how far I can get without it.

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