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View Poll Results: Guns Guns Guns
Rifles? 10 20.00%
Shotguns? 2 4.00%
Pistols? 12 24.00%
One or more of the above! 26 52.00%
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 01:56 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 07:56 PM #1 of 211
Sweden has an alot more restricted view on firearms. I won't be carrying a gun on me anytime soon, but I sure as hell will be buying one for target practice this spring. I'm a little bit of a gun-freak. Money's not a problem but I'm having a hard time deciding on which weapon to buy as I've never wielded a real pistol before.

The pistols I'm considering buying are the CZ-75B or Glock models 17C/20C.

Other than that, I wouldn't be buying anything else, since I generally prefer pistols and they're the only type of firearms I know how to operate - theoretically that is.

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:44 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 10:44 PM #2 of 211
Or screw reliability, style and the propability of doubt while you're facing a trespassers....

...just waste the SOB with a Glock 18C fully automatic;



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Old Mar 21, 2006, 05:00 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 11:00 PM #3 of 211
So you're saying a high-quality pistol such as a Glock would jam? Right. I've heard that Colt pistols chambered with .45 cal are prone to jamming, though I'm not sure if this is correct.

I hear there's a fully-automatic version of a CZ-75 as well, I think it was called CZ-75D or something, anybody know if it's as reliable as it's semi-auto counterpart?

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 05:03 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 11:03 PM #4 of 211
Originally Posted by Gumby
If you want a fully automatic weapon why not go with a submachine gun which is designed for that sort of abuse?
Because they're sligthly heavier and harder to conceal? I prefer pistols, besides imagine the look on the guy's face when you start firing a fully-automatic pistol. Element of surprise, uknowhwatimsayin.

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 05:30 PM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 11:30 PM #5 of 211
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Auto 9mm glock = heavy recoil/awful accuracy... That is like firing a MP5 with out the weight and length of the weapon to help control the recoil.
True that, but the Glock 18C is designed to be used as a backup weapon I reckon, whereas the MP5 could be used in a handful of different situations. I think it's a little extreme to compare them, but as I said - the Glock 18C was never meant to be your fully-automatic-handcarried-sniper-rifle.
Just spray and pray.

The MP5 however, is more or less an assault weapon. Also, depending on the model, the MP5 can barrage the target with about 700-800RPM. The Glock 18C however, has a cyclic rate of fire of 1100 to 1300 RPM, depending on the ammunition. So technically, removing the weight from the MP5 would still be incomparable to firing a Glock 18C.

Also, any C designated model from Glock is compensated, the barrel and slide both being ported as to decrease the recoil.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 22, 2006, 06:23 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 12:23 AM #6 of 211
And why 9mm Acro-nym? Don't you know that 9mm is considered rather underpowered these days? It barely penetrates kevlar, but then again it depends on the type of ammo. FMJ might do the trick, but JHP's always good against soft targets.

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Old Mar 22, 2006, 08:21 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 02:21 AM #7 of 211
Originally Posted by Greykin
A 9mm hollow point wouldn't do crap all to kevlar, even a fullmetal jacket wouldn't penetrate. I'm not sure on distances, but I'm pretty sure a FMJ wouldn't do it.
That's what I said, the hollow point is for soft targets. The FMJ however is - unlike the JHP - designed to remain intact, thus it's also better against armoured targets. Although if you're really looking to penetrate armor, use HV bullets.

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