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Old Jul 28, 2007, 02:09 PM Local time: Jul 28, 2007, 08:09 PM #1 of 38
Originally Posted by Soluzar
After all... you can't just draw additional data from thin air.
You're right, you can't do that, but you can add transparent sound patterns that enhance the overall experience of what you hear. Sort of like tricking your brain. Think of all the available frequencies in a graphic equalizer for instance, and the endless combinations of settings. Much like VBR is a transparent encode setting, it is indistinguishable from 320CBR, yet it occupies less space.

I've worked with restoration before, it's tricky, but it's worth it. I'll see what I can do, maybe it'll turn out good.

EDIT: Here's an example; normalized, equalized a little bit with a high cut, minor hiss reduction and some pops and cracks eliminated.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Jul 31, 2007, 03:59 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2007, 09:59 PM #2 of 38
Dude, it won't get any better than that. You're already dealing with a lost case right there. The best thing you can do is just lower the clipping and equalize it - if you ask me that sample is already beyond saving. No sound engineer would work on it anyway, take it or leave it.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 06:22 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 12:22 PM #3 of 38
No, all of those are clipping. You haven't really improved it. Panning and/or adding echo isn't going to restore it. To reduce clipping - you have to flatten it, if you flatten it without keeping it even and re-equalize it to hell, you'll end up cutting and reducing the sample even more.

I created a sample before I posted the one above, although it does indeed sound less flat than what I posted - it has lost far too much quality, thus making the end results worthless to say the least. Going with simple clip reduction, hiss reduction and flattening isn't going to give you a perfect sounding sample - that's not even the point of audio restoration, as far as I'm concerned, but like I said, this sample won't get any better than what it is. The original is far too lossy.

EDIT: The sample is already stereo, Spikey.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Aug 3, 2007, 11:14 AM Local time: Aug 3, 2007, 05:14 PM #4 of 38
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Parjay: Sounds worse than the original. Maybe just a smidge more stereo. Did you normalise it? It's pretty tough to compare one volume level with another..
Yes, let's add crappy panning and echo sounds to the original sample and still have it melt our eardrums! Yay! :sarcasm:

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Old Aug 4, 2007, 06:11 AM Local time: Aug 4, 2007, 12:11 PM #5 of 38
Come on man, enough bullshit already. Are you the only one trying to help him? Jesus, want a ribbon to go with that?

Also, I don't feel I have to justify my opinion by telling you a lie - I'm not going to say "Hey Spikey, you did a great job!" when in fact, you did something I would never even consider doing. Being dishonest to you will not help you improve, if that's truly what you want to, it'll only make matters worse.

If you take your time and read through my first response after you posted your three samples, you might even catch a hint of constructive criticism.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 5, 2007, 05:25 AM Local time: Aug 5, 2007, 11:25 AM #6 of 38
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I honestly have no idea what's causing your ridiculous outbursts in this thread
Outbursts? Right, well I think that started right about where you actually thought you knew what you were doing and persisted on being the only one with a solution, when you were in fact wrong.

Furthermore, it's interesting that you think of my last post as me flaming you - indeed it's cynical and sarcastic to start with, but I'm not out to scorn you, you can lower your banner now.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 08:49 AM Local time: Aug 17, 2007, 02:49 PM #7 of 38
I haven't abandoned the thread, I've just decided to take a little break.

Also, here's my current progress with Freelancer restoration. Comments please. Personally I'm really satisfied with results. I will do a little more exploration on working with audio editor's, might even try to do a gamerip. Who knows.
I'm sorry, but no, the sample's still clipping, you need to cut it alot more than that. Check Parjay's sample.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 05:00 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2007, 11:00 PM #8 of 38
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Anyway, it's the way original file was and I really don't want to mess with that.
So what's the point of restoring then? Good luck not messing with it if you want to restore it.

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