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View Poll Results: Protecting the agricultural sector
is still vital to a country 2 40.00%
should only be used to help farmers with unexpected changes 1 20.00%
should not exist 2 40.00%
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Old Jul 24, 2008, 11:28 AM Local time: Jul 24, 2008, 10:28 AM #1 of 19
liberazing agriculture

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For the first time since WWII, a round of negociation for lower tarriffs might fail...

In Quebec, when I compared to some prices in Saskatchewan, I feel like to paying too much (4l of milk is a dollar more expensive, the cheapeast bread also; eggs are 70c more expensive...). Cancelling EVERY SINGLE subsidies in and out of the country would significantly lower prices of goods AND would let developping countries depending on agriculture export more and probably improve their situation. But then, there is the question of how farmers would cope with climate changes and unexpected diseases...

Is agriculture protectionism still necessary nowadays?

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Old Jul 28, 2008, 10:53 AM Local time: Jul 28, 2008, 09:53 AM #2 of 19

Choke on your beaver meat, frog.
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in short: Canada doesn't seem to want to move on agriculture subsidies. It's not like the conservatives could lose seats in Alberta...

Speaking of which: are farmers still strong in the US? Apparently, Reagan lost a mid-term election because he didn't give enough subsidies

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Old Jul 29, 2008, 10:27 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 09:27 AM #3 of 19

What does Reagan have to do with the current matter? .
it's one of the many proofs that politicians are usually reluctant to change subsidies: they might lose their seats.

Here in Canada, it's unelikely to happen: provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan are deeply blue (conservative). I don't think the NDP could regain influence should the Conservatives go back on the right for economics

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 30, 2008, 03:03 PM Local time: Jul 30, 2008, 02:03 PM #4 of 19

Farming subsidies are bullshit, especially while using the World Bank and IMF to tell third world countries that they can't institute similar programs while we force them to buy our subsidized surplus.
according to the article under - dated from 2002- , Bush has given 180G$ in farm subsidies over 10 years. It also says that 10% of the farmers will receive 66% of the said subsidies.

Did it help lowering food price? Can part of the deficit be blamed on this?

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Old Aug 5, 2008, 01:09 PM Local time: Aug 5, 2008, 12:09 PM #5 of 19
Too bad ethanol is a terrible "solution" and should never have been made into such a big deal in the first place.
unfortunately, ordinary tax payers can hardly get together and demand lower subsidies (and by the same occasion, lower taxes). On the other hand, farmers aren't that many (2.4% in Canada), so their moving together is much easier since their interests are the same, namely keeping outside competition outside the country.

to brandylama: G is the scientific abbreviation of billion

I was speaking idiomatically.
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