Star Trek VS Star Wars

Originally Posted by Ottonabs

Star Trek and Star Wars are both pretty good. But they are not really the same: Star Wars would be best classified as an action type movie, not scifi, since there is not really any "sci" to it. Star Trek seems more real, and more thought is put into how their devices actually work and everything.

Both Stargates seem kinda cheesy to me, then again so are Wars and Trek. Just doesn't get me though.

What you really want is Battlestar Galactica (the new one). There's a good show.

Borg for the tiebreaker! Trek is leading (at least for the moment).

I agree with you Ottonabs.

THis poll is kind of like saying "Do you like 'Wonderous Sci Fi Show' or 'Huge Action Show' better?"

How ya doing, buddy?

Pointless thread. We should be comparing Sci Fi TV shows to Trek and space-war movies to star wars.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by LeHah

Thats got to be one of the worst things ever said in the history of the internet. It's like your high horse is riding on an even higher horse, with you on top of the two. Get over yourself.

Incorrect. He has a point.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Para did not say Star Trek is smarter. He said it's harder to understand compared to a series that is about war and drama/emotion.

My five year old cousin likes Star Wars because its fun and exciting to him. He can't stay focused on the TV when Star Trek is on.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by LeHah

So instead of Para saying it - you'll just making an awful neon sign of an insinuation in the following sentence...

Perhaps something is wrong with him, or perhaps he just doesn't like it Star Trek? Because between you and me, one of my earliest memories is watching reruns of TOS with my dad and loving every second of them. (When you're at that early age, you don't notice that the sets and effects are uber-cheap looking. You're just like "Wow! Space Monsters!")

Saying that your idiot 5 year old cousin doesn't like Star Trek is like saying my cousin's sister's half-brother's wife doesn't like it. That doesn't mean shit to anyone here since you can't quantify shit with age.

(Don't I remember having a pissing match with you earlier this year that ended with you looking like a fag and being tempbanned? Don't Marty McFly this shit and do it again)

The point is, Star Wars is easier to follow for him.

And I was never tempbanned. I helped save GFF in the first place. All I remember from the BSG thread is me making another argument and you never replying again.

My cousin isn't an idiot. Fuck you to hell.

You just don't understand real life. You can't accept that Star Wars is more likeable to the young ones because its easier to follow and understand.

I was speaking idiomatically.

You don't understand reality. The reality that if you asked a full classroom of children which one they would rather watch, the majority would raise their hands for Star Wars. If you think that is false, then you have a lot to learn about what majority rule thinks. If the kids were subjected to Star Wars and Star Trek, they would also raise their hands in saying the Star Wars movie was better & more entertaining to them.
If you disagree with the above, then... wow. In fact, sometimes I think you argue with people just to fulfill your sad little life, when in reality you don't even believe what you're saying. Nobody is stupid enough to actually believe that Star Wars is harder to understand.

I don't want to see you reply on it. I'm done talking about it.

Furthermore, arguing with you is like arguing with my 23 year old friend. After about one minute he resorts to personal attacks and swear words. You lost all credibility. You have zero credibility in any of your posts because of it. I'm done talking about it. I've never in my years at GFF or in any board seen anyone as pointless to argue with than you. I'm done fueling your mass immaturity or this "tactic" you have to have fun with yourself.

Go ahead, reply to each and every one of these sentances. You will be doing it for nothing.

Goodbye.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

#1

Originally Posted by Borg1982

In fact, sometimes I think you argue with people just to fulfill your sad little life, when in reality you don't even believe what you're saying.

#2

Originally Posted by LeHah

Thats actually a valid statement because I certainly wouldn't understand any crazy alagory for the Vietnam War at a very young age.

Quote 1: Assumes something about Lehah.

Quote 2: Proves that Lehah is helping my point of view, and is therefore helping me affirm what I said on quote #1.

Thanks for helping!

Originally Posted by LeHah

This is the second time you've said that - and the second time you've gone on anyway. Make up your mind.

I said "I'm done talking about it" the first time to tell you I'm done talking about Star Wars & Star Trek. I said "I'm done talking about it" the second time to tell you I'm done talking about your lack of credibility and other such stuff. Both times i said that were for DIFFERENT things.

This post proves I came back anyway. OMG! LeHah wins! He beat me in a "Borg will come back to this post" argument! My life is over!
The fact is, what you said before with all the attacks & irrelevant swearing got irritating, so I didn't want to fuel you anymore. But you did a better job at keeping cool just recently, so I came back. Good boy!

Originally Posted by LeHah

But you *do* realize that no one here is jumping to your defense?

I was the one originally coming to someone elses defense. He just isn't coming back because he'd rather not get attacked by you. I couldn't give a shit what you say about me. It was sad to attack a 5 year old though. I also will choose whether or not to respond based upon how mature you choose to be in a reply. Your recent post dignified a response.

Finally, just by surfing for any script from any Star Trek show, seeing this:


Radiation bursts from the star's
surface are making precise sensor
readings difficult. It seems to
be exhibiting gravitational
instability.
Sir, I am detecting a
transmission... emanating from
within this system.
Indeterminate. I am attempting
to screen out sensor
interference...
Just studying the components in
your prosthesis.
We had to disguise it as something
innocuous.

...does not at all appeal to young children. I'm sure I watched plenty of TOS and TNG when I was little. I definitely did not care for when they used big words like this when I was very young. I'm sure I liked space battles, fights and easy to understand scenes more. But since Trek is a mix of both, I probably only liked parts of it. (Later it became my favorite series ever because I rewatched a lot and started to fully 100% understand it).

We aren't going to settle this argument through the internet. We cannot beg CNN to do a "young children Trek VS Wars report" poll. Why don't you go out and ask kids their opinion of both. But why should you? You already helped me! (see top of this post)!

How ya doing, buddy?

90% of the above post has nothing to do with the main topic here. Honestly, who cares if I said "I'm done talking about it" and who cares about your analysis of how I said that and any inconsistencies thereof (all of which have nothing to do with the main topic). Shall we stop the analyzing of our name-calls against each other and other irrelevant things?

The other 10% of your post finally went to the main topic.

1. Do you understand what I meant by the "big words" argument that I made, and do you completely disagree with me as always?

2. Allow me to clarify (I didn't at all clarify). I was subjected to TOS & TNG when I was little. (It is the same to say I watched it; aka had my eyes on it). I have clear and vivid memories of being bored for most of it, and since I had no control over the TV, I just sat there and watched anyway. I picked television over being 100% bored. (Later in life, as I said, I loved Trek).

3. Don't you recall that Para is the one that started this idea of one being easier to understand than the other? Clearly, he's just gone now. Probably doesn't want to put up with name-calls. To me, it's just a message board topic. I'll choose what to reply to when I want.

Originally Posted by Para

It is understandable that Star Wars would receive more popularity as it is an easier to understand story compared to Star Trek due to the depth difference between the two.

4. He said it was understandable. He didn't say "Easy to understand things are always better to the majority no matter what". He understands it. You probably don't understand it. Are you irritated in the fact that more people voted Star Wars in this poll? I knew that would happen, myself.
Please pick apart what he said and tell me why its disagreeable to you.

EDIT ADD: http://enterprisevsties.ytmnd.com/ Proof that Trek > Wars!
:biggrin:

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

If you think when I say "But Trek was mostly boring when I was little" is back peddling, then how can the argument continue? Do you not believe me when I say that? If you think I'm starting to lie, or something, to get my point across, then why talk anymore about that? Go out and start asking kids their opinion.

But why bring up kids into this? The fact is, just by watching Trek, you know you are watching something with levels of dialogue that are a few notches up compared to other stuff. Star Wars may have a few scenes of this, but not many.

3 hours of class and 2 of driving time... gotta go.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Back from my school/drive...(and I see you paranoia-drivenly thought that I quit the thread or something? Weird).

I didn't mean "Don't bring up kids in this argument anymore, LeHah."
I meant: "What's the point? Why bring that up anymore? How about we retract that and talk about the core episodes vs. Star Wars movies."

Secondly, you say the burden of proof is on me, but there is no way that I can conduct studies with children and show you them in person. But I already know what I personally believe about the world. If you are seriously curious about what majority thinks, start to ask people.

But again, lets retract the childrens opinion crap and get down to the main point: The episode quotes that I pasted in previous messages show thaton average, Star Trek episodes are going to be more intellectual, solely because of dialogue - not specifically world issues like "Vietnam". Star Wars movies may have "intellectual" scenes, but the vast majority is easy to understand stuff.

Nothing is black & white. Nothing is 100%. But remember what the word average means.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I think you got angry when this whole issue of me & para supposedly hopping on our "high horse". Allow me to clarify:

I don't like Trek because it is "smart". I like plenty of things that have not even one "intellectual" word in it.
I love Star Wars for many things that it does.
I love Star Trek for many things that it does.
I am entertained in different ways for each.
Star Trek is more intellectual. It's not a huge great deal harder to understand than Star Wars. Many people just prefer Star Wars. Trek definitely does not require only people who are gifted to watch. Star Wars just reaches a bigger audience. It appeals to many, many more. Huge demographic.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.