Internet Explorer 7

So I hear IE7 for WinXP is out, and its a very poor program with some very annoying bugs (most have to do things with slow sites or slow browsing speed, in which case it just cuts loading in half, resulting in broken images when browsing 4chan and thats pretty much it).
Browser wise its ie6 with an UI tweak, tabs, transparent PNG, many bugfixes and minor CSS improvements.

But, it has exceptionally good security (pretty much no recent vulnerability were affected by it in the past half year while it was being developed), possibly due to the fact that by installing IE7, IE is seperated from the Windows Kernel.

Gotta give Microsoft some props for that, even though the browser feels like its from 2002.

Oya, and it will be put up on Autoupdate as a critical security update (which it is, ironically) from November. I can sympathize with that, and since it also has slightly improved CSS and transparent png support, this is a well needed forward move for the web. Forcing this on users is a justified evil since Microsoft is cleaning up 5 years of mess they created.

So, I wonder, what does GFF think about this?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by The Wise Vivi

Haven't tried it yet, but I heard as soon as it came out that there was a security flaw in it. My roomate has tried it and said he thinks it ok. Got some nice new browser enhancements.

Its nothing mindblowing however...

That was Beta 1 waaaay back in march or so, when ie7 was nothing more then tabbing + ui redesign...

And yea its nothing mindblowing - its how a browser should've looked in 2002.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Arainach

Still not Standards Compliant, still not worth the bits it takes up on my hard drive.

Expecting a tad bit too much aren't we? Remember that the developement cycle was only about 1 year long in which time they had to fix 5 years worth of accumulating bugs - both rendering and stability issues - AND they still managed to add new stuff.
The security thing isn't air talk either, for example no previous IE based exploit affected IE7 at all, during the beta phase.

And just think about it - with 3 major browsers around (IE6, IE7, FF) around, all with different security buildups, threats will be more scarce then they are now. It's much more rewarding to search for exploits when a browser is used by 80% of the visitors, but after the automatic updates take place, that number will surely decrease. More diversity among browsers will cause less threats to appear for one browser from the many, thats common logic.
Plus at least theres an actual developement team on IE, not just a hotfix team.

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I think they should stop making IE, no one uses it and all it does is crash, they should just bundle firefox with windows from now on imo, it's embarrassing watching them try to enhance it and it usually becoming more buggy.

If they would do that, in 5 years people would treat Firefox like plague.

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Anyone have any idea as to how to have links open in the current IE window but in a new tab. For example, in IE7 if I were to click my signature then a new window will open up rather than a new tab. Any ideas?

Hold down CTRL while clicking on the link, or use middle click.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Someone at the IEblog summarized it up the best:

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# re: IE7 Hits the Street
Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:36 PM by Fred
I use FF and I am embarrassed by its users. They have destroyed more comment weblogs and discussion communitys than any other browser fanatics I know. I may just stop using it since I.E. 7 works so well but I like the FF extensions. If somebody acted like people do here on an airplane they would get silenced fast. I think you should look at comment moderation or maybe start signups with user names and passwords. I have to siff through to much junk and help forums are worse. Free speech is nice in theory but nincompoops always want to ruin it for everyone.

I think theres enough proof that Microsoft *can* make superior products as long as theres some competition to beat. With the browser wars resurfacing due to more and more firefox zealot faggots, I can imagine that IE will catch up and beat Firefox feature wise.

Originally Posted by RPG Maker

Does text look a bit burry for you guys in I.E.7? I won't be using I.E. but these little things bother me =/

Disable Cleartype under tools -> internet options -> advanced.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Kalekkan

Expecting decent compatability with a 6-year standard is not asking much from a full well-paid development team.

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/

Did you even read my post? They had to fix 5 years worth of bugs and security issues first. And they had roughly a year to do it.

Did Firefox and Opera got perfect support for all w3c standards in 1 year flat after their release? Of course not. They incrementally added features till everything was supported. IE seems to move in that direction too.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by GALM-2

No, actually, they used the standards as the basis for their engines.

Funny, it's as if the support just sort of happened!

Then explain why it took so long for Firefox to render the acid test correctly. Using your logic, it should've rendered perfect in the first version of firefox.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I dunno, the fact that they STARTED developing IE after 5 years of hiatus, slowly pluggin up its bugs, leading to wider adoption of standards (the few of the ones they fixed), is kinda good. Remember that IE still has ~80% market share, so any new developement for it will have a global effect especially since they plan are distributing it via Windows Update.

I'm not saying that you should kiss Microsofts ass because they added tabs to IE in 1 year. Firefox zealots will not use IE even if it will have way better standards support (remember the first browser wars? IE outperformed Netscape in that field back then).

FELIPE NO