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[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD
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Old May 19, 2008, 02:06 AM Local time: May 18, 2008, 11:06 PM #1 of 1533
40gb? $599? What in the hell happened?
That's the Gunmetal LE PS3, only reason why it'd be more than the $499 80GB one cause of the Gunmetal and "LE" =\ the 80GB with game and dual shock 3 however will be available on June 12th, and will probably sell for awhile. So it won't be as limited as the Gunmetal LE. Still wish we could've pre-ordered the 80GB bundle.

I personally gave in cause i wanted to be playing MGS4 on the release date instead of taking my chances getting the bundle so i went and got the 40GB model around the time GTA4 came out and i'm happy with it. I'll have to back track and read more of the thread, everytime i read more about MGS4 it makes me want it more.

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Old May 19, 2008, 08:37 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 05:37 PM #2 of 1533
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clicked the pre-order button lots of times and got this, oh well thought i'd try, good luck guys

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Old May 19, 2008, 09:33 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 06:33 PM #3 of 1533
Nice the 80GB pre-orders finally sprouting up, thanks for the tip. Kinda wish i waited but i'm happy, i'd rather get the LE MGS4 game anyways so saved some money minus the dual shock 3 which i hope to own before i get the game.

Also, a question about the Gunmetal version.. is it just the color or actual feel of it?

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Old May 20, 2008, 12:03 AM Local time: May 19, 2008, 09:03 PM #4 of 1533
Don't know if this has been addressed or not, i looked back some pages to see if it was brought up and didn't see but if it was, forgive me. This is from the press conference Kojima had showing off the 40 minutes of gameplay, which he said was only 1/15th of the entire game, as well as the theatrical trailer that was shown. This was from Gamespot.
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After the end of the live gameplay demonstration, Kojima talked briefly about plans for a "Metal Gear Solid 4 World Tour," during which he and his staff will travel around the world to meet up with fans of the series. The tour locations include London; Madrid, Spain; Milan, Italy; Frankfurt, Germany; Amsterdam, Netherlands; Paris; New York; Los Angeles; and San Francisco.
Dunno bout you guys but i thought this sounded kinda cool, after this paragraph this one followed..
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One of the surprises at the press conference came at the very end. As the lights dimmed out for the event to end, a one-way dialogue very similar to the endings in the MGS games took place, hinting at some sort of worldwide live event and a sequel, though it was too vague to make any assumptions.

"Yes, the presentation event has ended. Everything is according to plan."

"We will proceed to the final steps of the mission. The surprise that's planned on launch date, should it be executed?

"Yes. Akihabara, New York, LA...worldwide live broadcast. Yes, there are no problems. The VIP has agreed to come. Yes, that's correct. That person. Understood. June 12."

"And what should we do about that project? Yes, that's right. That man has shattered, but...about the sequel. Yes. Yes... I see. That's understood, Mr. Company President."
Surprise on launch date?.. VIP?.. This keeps getting better and better.. like i said if it had been mentioned sorry, my skimming skills suck. 23 more days till June 12th, am i the only one with a countdown timer with this?

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Old May 20, 2008, 03:17 PM Local time: May 20, 2008, 12:17 PM #5 of 1533
Here's a nice tidbit of information. Ever wonder why MGS4 is gonna be released on a Thursday, more specfically June 12th? It's because Metal Gear Solid was first released in Japan on June 12th 1998, whole 10 years has come around. I thought that was kinda neat that small little detail.

I too don't want to know a lot about the game.. i gotta say even reading about everything with MGS2 i was still kinda shocked how things turned up.. as for MGS3 my mind was elsewhere i didn't think much of it and i don't know why, ended up buying it like month later not knowing just how good it was. But the whole "middle east" scenery seems to be just a small glimpse of what the game has in store like the tanker in MGS2, there's gotta be more Kojima has kept in hiding and i don't want to find out till i'm playing it.

While browsing on Playstation Blog the latest isntallment of Metal Gear Mondays had a couple of cool movies if you guys want to check out. First one is a Metal Gear Retrospective - Part 2 from GameTrailers, its mostly about MGS and its spin offs as well as Twin Snakes. And second clip is a something from Kotaku, don't know how long its been around but its Metal Gear Solid meets Lupin the III, kinda cool how they did it.

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Old May 22, 2008, 10:08 AM Local time: May 22, 2008, 07:08 AM #6 of 1533
Naomi is some great eye candy. Raiden's exo-skeleton armor is really sweet looking, love the details they put in everything in the game. Me thinks the Beauty and the Beast Unit is gonna be some epic boss battles.. that's probably the third of many reasons i'm wanting the game aside from story and gameplay.

Noticed a lot of game reviewers sending out reviews early though, trying not to read them but the quotes there sound very very promising, i'd expect no less from MGS and Kojima.

The more i try to not read and look at more MGS4 info and pictures i can't help but satisfy my indulgence. Defiantly gonna be there at midnight to pick it up and get plenty of sleep before then so i can marathon it, i did the same thing for MGS2 minus the midnight pick up and sleeping.. i remember playing it none stop entire day ended up resulting in a headache near the end, not the best combination trying to absorb everything that was going on at the time.

From the pictures hopefully we'll be able to control REX and square off against Liquid and RAY.. if you got the gears hell use them. And if we don't still looks like an intense cutscene.

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Old May 22, 2008, 06:56 PM Local time: May 22, 2008, 03:56 PM #7 of 1533
Thanks for the music clip, sounds like an intense fight.

As for midnight releases, Gamestop.com usually has a list a week or couple days before with the stores that'll be open. They did this with Super Smash Bros. Brawl and GTA4, so i specifically went to the one that always opened up for the midnight releases. The other Gamestop here is in a mall which doesn't open until 10am so, yeah hopefully yours is its own building or outside it has a chance of opening. This would be my first midnight release so i'm kinda excited to see the turn out if any in this town.

I've seen a few articles about Metal Gear to be kept going, GameTrailers also had a recent interview after the Konami Gamers' Day talking to him about it. Mostly like how he was gonna step aside being the head of MGS4 but his crew had some difficulty on how to close the series, they just didn't want to ruin it so Kojima came back cause of them and fan reactions.. YOU MUST DO THIS, plus MGS is his baby what else should anyone expect. So next one it sounds like he's gonna be watching his team from a distance, hearing rumors mostly gonna be Metal Gear Raiden, but its still to early to know.. don't even know what's gonna happen in MGS4.

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Old May 23, 2008, 01:15 AM Local time: May 22, 2008, 10:15 PM #8 of 1533
Regarding the midnight release, the EB I pre-ordered at is actually outside of the mall. However, I can't really see them doing a midnight release for MGS4. I personally don't see the hype for MGS4 exceeding that of GTAIV and Halo 3, and therefore can't imagine the staff there willing to do the midnight release (though I'm pretty that location did do it for Halo 2, but didn't follow whether it was done for GTAIV or Halo 3). Haha, to be honest it's no big deal to me, as I said already my plans for that day were strickly to play MGS4. So I'll just have wake up a little earlier the day of to run out and back.
I can pretty much guarantee they'll do a midnight opening cause of all the stuff they're backing it with (the LE MGS4 Gamestop/EB exclusive) and also midnight releases on huge titles are coming more common now. If they don't do it, then there's something wrong with them lol. But if you mean the store that you pre-ordered at opening then no clue, they're all kinda random i guess. I live in a somewhat small town or at least mid-size and they've been doing it before, so hope yours will be able to open up. When the list comes up on site i'll post it unless someone beats me.

And about the Solid title i didn't know that either, there is a lot of stuff they say that all add up to the title coming to so they all sound good to me. Personally i just figured since they're technically wrapping up Solid Snakes saga so to speak that it might branch off to like "Metal Gear [Insert Name]" but hell if they just make it MGS5 that'd be sweet to just as like its the same style and awesome stories they keep doing.

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Old May 23, 2008, 12:15 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 09:15 AM #9 of 1533
/me think he will defiantly get more than his money worth and see that everything will be explained through the series, keep me on the list.

Given the history of MGS series and Kojima the cutscenes should be good. Don't complain, you can pause and skip them if you don't want to see them for those who are impatient and just want gameplay, then read some spoiler site to find out what happens if you don't wanna sit there.

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Old May 23, 2008, 12:27 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 09:27 AM #10 of 1533
Well just proves more the fact MGS4 is aimed for the fans i suppose, i'm fine with it the casual gamer probably not. Wouldn't want another DVD though, as long as the gameplay equals or is more than cutscenes then i'm good. But i get what people are saying and played Xenosaga and after the long scenes i kinda crapped out for the moment.

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Old May 23, 2008, 12:37 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 09:37 AM #11 of 1533
Agreed. But i'm so much of a the sucker for the series i'll probably be craving every minute of it, already sounds like a lot of replay value with easters eggs and what not. But i wonder to what the extent of gameplay then cutscenes are? Are the far in between or something? That too i could see forgivable, for me i'm annoyed even if its a small cutscene every few moments.

So i am only assuming that these long cutscenes are like at the end of each chapter, i remember reading that this is the first MGS to have chapters and beginning of them has Sunny cooking eggs and the way the eggs are being made or handled sets the mood for the chapter. So if these are the long cutscenes they're talking about at the end of each chapter to wrap things up, i can see this to be plausible.

As for endings i always wish for long cutscenes not enough of them out there.

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Old May 23, 2008, 12:55 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 09:55 AM #12 of 1533
That's just bizarre. I have nothing against lengthy sequences, but this sounds like a fair bit of an over estimation. I'm hoping it is.

This makes me howl, though. You're one of those types that only buys a game if it's more than 15 hours long, I'm guessing. Value is hardly defined by duration. And in this case, it's kind of amusing to say that there's more inherant value in a game where you sit there and pick your nose for an hour and half while you're watching all this going on.

This whole longer is better attitude with people these days is really painful.
Shouldn't be quick to judge me, i've owned plenty of games that aren't really long and play them over and over and think that the majority are the best ones out there. And i'm far from the one to play lengthy games, i got so many RPGs unfinished. And maybe i sounded like i was really defensive and nit-picking but all i'm saying.. if you're not into it then fine there are alternatives.

Also i'm not totally against the fact that long cutscenes would probably make people cringe and possibly lose the mood to play, i've been there. As i said, i'm a fan of the series big time and i accept this with open arms thats why i like the idea. Just seems like they went more of the way to be there for the hardcore fans and i'm not saying you guys aren't, i get what you mean - it can be a bit overwhelming. Like Kago said if they're in middle of game it's unsetteling i believe that, i'm hoping they're more for closure to the end chapters though so you won't miss out on objectives midway through gameplay, just action/story sequences.

EDIT: If it is like 90 minute codec sequences... then i'll just cringe and go to my happy place.

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Old May 23, 2008, 01:13 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 10:13 AM #13 of 1533
And i hope so to, what i said isn't the best idea but was the only thing i could think of at the time since there seems like there isn't anything else. Problem is, that the sources are kinda vague when these cutscenes take place and if they disrupt the story and gameplay while in the midst of things or if they're pretty much skipable at the end of chapters, we don't know. So yeah i'm happy they did this cause i love the series, but in a way now i'm kinda wishing they made it easier for everyone to enjoy.

And if they are skipable is it like codec sessions fastforward.. skip a part of a clip then like it loads up a new one of the cutscene so people don't totally miss out? Just pretty vague and i think to early to say if it is great or bad now, sorry if i've jumped the gun but its good news to me maybe not so much for everyone.

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Old May 23, 2008, 01:21 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 10:21 AM #14 of 1533
Sweet, just as i was thinking lol.

Here ya go Source: Mandatory install, long cutscenes inflitrate Metal Gear Solid 4 | PS3 News | GamePro.com

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Just cut out the end part.

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Old May 23, 2008, 01:44 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 10:44 AM #15 of 1533
Yeah good news for all, i'm not the impressed with CVGs site and the way they cover things in the first place and then Kotaku picks it up.

You got a British magazine that says it has the equivalent of all 3 Godfather movies put together and then another says that's a big exaggeration, they're lengthy yes maybe 45 minute-ish but nothing that long. While on that note, there was a 45 minute cutscene in MGS2 and i can't even remember it =\

Sounds like the install time is gonna be long as well, 4.6GB to the HD, maybe the collectors edition will keep me busy in the mean time.

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Old May 23, 2008, 09:56 PM Local time: May 23, 2008, 06:56 PM #16 of 1533
That promo soundtrack sure got my personal hype-meter up.
As I didn't follow the latest reports too closely, what's up with the different camera modes, they still there? At one point they demonstrated something like "GoW style cam, FPS cam, Subsistance style cam" to select from. Do we know if that's still there?
Not sure if they're selectable from a menu screen or not but i believe they're all integrated given the situation. You can stay in FPS mode when you want, you can be behind walls and stuff on the ground and can peek out to shoot but don't think its the GoW style you're talking about.

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Old May 24, 2008, 02:20 AM Local time: May 23, 2008, 11:20 PM #17 of 1533
Looks like I've been cast to be at our store at midnight for the release, so if anyone wants to help me dress up for the event, I'm open to suggestions.
I'd go with a cardboard box or a drum barrel, easy enough right? Think it'd be clever lol. Or a "!" some where over your head.

Well, from my experience with the MGO Beta FPS mode can only be initiated when you're aiming. The camera kinda works like this, default view when not aiming is the Subsistance 3rd persion view. When aiming (holding L1), if you have auto-aim on you'll be using the 3rd person view (MGS3 Subsistance style, holding Square + L1), if auto aim is off you'll go into over-the-shoulder view (a la Gears of War, Ghost Recon) for precision aiming, while in OTS if you press Triangle you'll go into FPS. Auto-aim mode is toggled via the Square button. I believe there's an option where you can select FPS view on memory, therefore whenever you aim you won't have to hit the Triangle button to go into FPS mode from OTS.
Yeah i played the MGO for a bit took me awhile to get the hang of the controls, defiantly want manual aiming. I was disappointed that you had to press and hold the buttons for FPS cause in an early video they mentioned if you're ever so inclined you can play the whole game like that.. but not the way MGO had it, so the button scheme should be a bit different. Not that i'd want to play in FPS mode the whole time but like they stated, best for precision aiming.

I've never played GoW so i didn't know what you meant, my assumption was the insane shooting while in cover. I'm glad they added the OTS system, although they're nothing alike in GTA4 when you'd go for cover sometimes you'd have awkward positioning and can never lock on to someone right or you end up shooting at what you're hiding behind, so adding this into MGS4 save a lot of trouble plus for those who i guess are use to one side than the other. I played around a bit with the ducking behind walls a bit on MGO, wasn't real complex. It did seem a bit slow to pop out and shoot, looked like a huge opening for players to get you, but at least it's workable.

The on the back style and grenade tossing reticule looked very nicely done, instead of sticking out like a sore thumb on your knees at a foxhole it looked really cool in the video just being able to lay on your back and toss it behind you. I played around a bit with that on MGO trying to roll while running quickly go into laying on ground and flip over, but the camera faces you to the way you were facing in the first place not where you'd normally end up which would be facing the opposite direction. So i can see this maybe as a great thing or a curse, good things is switch directions front to back is real quick.

Any game with you being able to control the camera via right stick or whatever is alright in my book, and i've haven't had any complaints about that in any MGS.

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Old May 24, 2008, 08:43 PM Local time: May 24, 2008, 05:43 PM #18 of 1533
Go to the midnight release and then later that day have him sign your collectors edition instead? Or would they toss you out cause you need to buy from them for him to autograph? If they did that.. that's just wrong.

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Old May 25, 2008, 03:59 PM Local time: May 25, 2008, 12:59 PM #19 of 1533
You could do that though. In the Gameplay Options tab in settings was an option to turn on First Person Memory or something to that effect so that everytime you pressed L1 to ready your weapon it'd automatically jump to First Person without having to press Triangle too. Likewise if you got tired of playing it like that then you could press Triangle to switch from FPS to the standard aiming mode.
Ah i never knew about that. I still wouldn't want to play whole thing like that, are you even able to see the tension ring around you?

About 18 more days left and i'm real anxious, been trying to find stuff on web that'll ease it but not spoil it much for me. Went ahead and pre-ordered the limited edition guide, Gamestop had it coming out on the 3rd of June but i got it off Amazon that said the 12th.. no idea if it'll come any earlier but i won't be opening it up before the game anyways.

About raising the PS3 price, that's just wrong.. dunno what's going on where you live but sounds like you're better off ordering online somewhere. Before i got my PS3 i was asking around on the Sony Playstation forum whether to get one now or wait for the bundle (ended up just buying one now) and there was a person saying they worked at this place and had information from Sony that their would be PS3 price drops sometime this month.. which i'm thinking is not true now.

Gametrailers is having a retrospective of the whole series that they're doing pretty well, each part is about 21 minutes each and their recent one is Part 3 with MGS2/Substance. They talk about everything just about so if you never played the other games and want to find out what happens or if you have played and just wanna relive it all Gametrailers.com - Metal Gear Retrospective - highly recommend it.

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Old May 27, 2008, 03:19 PM Local time: May 27, 2008, 12:19 PM #20 of 1533
Sounds like the last couple weeks will be worth the wait and no mention of the stupid 90 minute cutscene rumors. Dunno what the reviewer or person playing the game was thinking when the said that, makes me think they should look for another job if they can't review games right. All of this looks promising Simo, after a couple days of looking for things these new details are nice without spoiling anything.

The ratings sound great, very very promising.

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Old May 28, 2008, 01:08 AM Local time: May 27, 2008, 10:08 PM #21 of 1533
The last piece of new info from the interview involves a returning character that I'll spoiler mark but it's not a major character and somebody who is apart of Snake's support team:
Spoiler:
Rose is back as a psychological counselor with a combat stress platoon. You can call her for psychological advice in the game where she'll give you tips on how to handle Snake's Stress and Psyche gauges and helping to spike the former by asking what day it is.
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I had almost forgot about her until i watched the special DVD we got for pre-ordering, though i loved MGS2, i do admit her codec sessions with Raiden did get on my nerves.. maybe it was cause i was playing 10 hours straight with no sleep. But good to hear she's still around.

While somewhat on the subject i'd really like to see how this "stress" factor plays in effect, i'm hoping it won't get totally in the way. But MGS3 introduced something new like fixing wounds and such i thought was pretty cool, hopefully maybe its along the lines of this but a bit more introduced.

"- Loved Act 1's unpredictable pacing, it ditches the usual hand holding tutorial."
I assume he's talking about the beginning of the game where Snake is in a cloak somewhat and his gun is jammed because its an ID-tagged one and you get seamless cutscene and gameplay combinations going. So it's utter chaos with the hail of gunfires and gekkos moving about.. i absolutely love what they did beginning it like that without a tutorial as stated and so you're just trying to escape everything. More games should be like this i can only think of a handful, just brilliant to absorb you in.

On a side note.. i had a dream this morning were i had Octocamo on and i'd drop to floors and hear it kick in, it was cool but weird lol. I want this game now!

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Old May 29, 2008, 04:37 AM Local time: May 29, 2008, 01:37 AM #22 of 1533
Thanks for music download links, disc 1 is amazing. Mobs Alive and Desperate Chase being my favs of the disc. Love Theme is great to, i also liked the mix they used for Brawl, i guess it wouldn't be on there but i'd like to have it instead of having it loop on the Wii.

The new screen shots look beautiful as well, and WTH?! We don't start off with Octocamo? Well thats kind of weird but oh well, looks like we'll still get it pretty early anyways. As for the midnight release, no info yet from Gamestop, but i'm assuming they'll post something the week of. Also those pre-ordering through online both regular and CE of the game will ship overnight and be there on June 12th guaranteed or you get a nice refund.

Really wish i had a HDTV for the game, i was thinking about getting an HDMI to DVI cable for my flatscreen monitor cause it supports HDCP, but only problem is sound. I don't have anything or want to be using more money on something like that, i know bout Y-Cable but nothing to hook it up too. I also opted for a cheap 19" LCD HDTV thats around $279 but i'm still strapped for cash. Ah well, i'm sure it'll still be good on my standard TV, but HD looks amazing.

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Old May 30, 2008, 03:50 PM Local time: May 30, 2008, 12:50 PM #23 of 1533
Had quite some time re-finding the MGS4 thread but oh well.

If EG rated it 8/10 and still had a positive review then it sounds like the liked it, i can see how they can rate it.. i mean i don't really understand the 9.5 or 9.7s or anything with a point, it's either go all the way or not what are they afraid of. It's still been getting a lot of praise and i don't normally go on reviews unless its a game i haven't heard of or series i haven't played. Pretty much from playing the MGS game on PSone i've sealed the decision that i'd be playing the series how long it went on every time. And mostly i do that for other games as well, don't need a review to change my mind one way or another no matter how good or bad the game may be. But even so it's nice to see games you play be rated high, even so i'm not one to need to feel the reassurance that i'm playing a good game.

Still counting off the days, gonna be excited to play it finally.

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Old May 30, 2008, 05:40 PM Local time: May 30, 2008, 02:40 PM #24 of 1533
Hey i found it right? The others will come!! ....eventually.

But you're right shouldn't be any review bickering.. no new info as of yet just this load of fanboy rumor panic.

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Old May 31, 2008, 02:23 AM Local time: May 30, 2008, 11:23 PM #25 of 1533
don't forget cloudbaka. he is a joke too.
He has weeaboo Japanese in his name, it went without saying
I don't see how calling me a name proves anything, i'm just here minding my business talking about MGS4. But i'm not gonna carry on, don't really care what happened. Where is the Bobo GFF days? I use to visit the forums a lot back then, don't really see how i'm a joke talking about MGS4 =\

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