[General Discussion] "Rap Isn't Music"

While I do think cultural background and races will heavily influence what kind of music you listen to, I don't think it applies to the "rap isn't music" argument.

I personally listen to quite a lot of black 70's music, and I'm seriously horrified at the massive amount of tracks I hear here and there performed by skilled musicians (who for the most never became famous) that some little fucker sampled, spoke shit over and got rich with.

No, it doesn't take much effort sampling and editing it, breakbeats were already invented back then. Just gotta add your louder bitchass one to the original.

No, it doesn't take a huge musical culture. Ever heard of Dusty Fingers and the likes ? They're compilations of 70s/80s music featuring obscure breakbeat based tracks purposely made for rappers to abuse use. And fuck, they've got no complex using those (they're great listen btw).

No, rapping isn't just "speaking over a beat". It requires certain skills and/or training. How does it even compare to mastering a musical instrument though ? "but man rappers are from the ghetto they can't learn music ..." No, shut up. Most funk, soul acts from the 70s (that rappers are pillaging) were from the ghetto and still played like gods.

No, it's not all rap that is like this. Most of the successful stuff is, though.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Traumatized Rat

Seriously, I find it bizarre that people are actually arguing that musicians have to be talented to make music. (lol niki)

I never mentioned talent. =/

And you can apply what I wrote earlier to a good amount of house/electronica music who pillage 70s/80s disco just as much and in the same immoral way.

There's nowhere I can't reach.