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Old Sep 2, 2006, 10:03 PM Local time: Sep 2, 2006, 10:03 PM #1 of 166
Based on the game played so far against Georgia Tech, can we start criticizing Notre Dame, saying that they're overrated and that they don't deserve to be ranked #2 and #3 now?

In other college football news, Colorado still sucks.

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Old Sep 16, 2006, 04:36 PM Local time: Sep 16, 2006, 04:36 PM #2 of 166
Originally Posted by Trigunnerz
Here comes USC to rank #2!
While I can't really hold it against you for presupposing a USC victory over Nebraska, Auburn might have something to say about you writing them off.

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Hopefully to #1!
Is this even serious.

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Old Sep 17, 2006, 02:55 PM Local time: Sep 17, 2006, 02:55 PM #3 of 166
Originally Posted by Trigunnerz
How is Notre Dame still #2? I was expecting either Auburn or USC to be #2.
Notre Dame was still #2 because the new polls weren't up yet. This has since changed, with Auburn now #2, Notre Dame falling to #12, and Miami falling out of the top 25 entirely.

That'll teach them to not stomp on Louisville's cardinal.

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Old Sep 24, 2006, 11:48 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2006, 11:48 PM #4 of 166
Originally Posted by xman25
I would like to see those clauses. I won't believe them until I see them.
Originally Posted by The Observer
ND clause is cause for alarm
By ANDREW SOUKUP
Sports Writer


The best thing to happen to Notre Dame this weekend would be to walk out of Colorado Springs with a win against Air Force. The second-best thing to happen to them would be walk out of Colorado Springs with a loss to Air Force.

In fact, if Notre Dame could pick a game it had to lose this season, that game would be Air Force.

That's because of a little-known clause built into the Bowl Championship Series contract commonly referred to as the "Notre Dame" clause. Or, more appropriately, the "Notre Dame is special and you're not" clause.

The way the BCS works is that the winners of the six major conferences — ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and SEC — automatically advance to one of the four biggest bowls, where the payout per team is $10 million. The other two teams are usually at-large selections, and to be eligible for an at-large selection, a school must be ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS standings.

There's also wording built into the BCS contract that says any team which finishes in the top six but doesn't win their conference automatically earns an at-large selection. And here's where a shrewd Notre Dame administrator stepped in.

If a team from outside one of the six major conferences finishes in the top six, like Air Force, for example, they still get a free ride into a BCS bowl. And if that happens, and if Notre Dame has nine wins or finishes in the top 12 of the final BCS standings, the Irish are automatically in, too.

That's a load of ifs that have to happen. But the whole "Notre Dame" clause is basically a load in itself.

And that brings us back to Saturday's game against Air Force. A Notre Dame win will undoubtedly help them. A Notre Dame loss will turn every Irish fan into a Falcons fans. Because if Air Force finishes in the top six, and Notre Dame manages to win just three of its five remaining games, the Irish get to sneak into the BCS through the back door.

If you're a Notre Dame fan, you love this fine print. If you're not, then you've got one more reason to boycott NBC on Saturdays.

Admittedly, the chance of such a scenario developing seems highly unlikely. Air Force has to run the table and count on top teams in the six major conferences to start losing badly if it wants to crack the top six.

The fact that such a chance exists is ridiculous. And the only thing that benefits from such an arrangement is Notre Dame's coffers.

Sure, Notre Dame can creep in even with one loss, but they still have to face a pair of ranked teams in Florida State and USC. And Boston College isn't a guaranteed win, either. But the Irish could conceivably lose two of those games — finishing the season with a mighty .750 winning percentage — and qualify for a bowl game.

If that happens, Tyrone Willingham will be the first loser. For a man who pushes his team to win every game, every Saturday, getting into a BCS bowl with three losses would be a slap in the face. He'd have to field questions about whether Notre Dame really deserved the slot. And deep down inside, he might wonder if his team deserved the bid, too.

Notre Dame would lose next. For the players who spent the entire season restoring prestige to a long-dormant football program, they'd watch it slip away as soon as the Irish signed a contract to play in a BCS bowl. Then again, the players are on scholarship, so one more free ride might not hurt them that much.

Finally, college football loses yet again. No. 1 Miami and No. 3 Virginia Tech are slated to play each other the final game of the season in a game that will probably determine the Big East champion. Whoever loses will have the privilege of playing in a second-tier bowl on New Year's Day and will get back to their hotels in time to watch Notre Dame play in a BCS bowl.

Granted, a Vegas bookie would love the odds against such a scenario developing. A lot has to happen before Notre Dame gets its special clause invoked and more deserving schools watch their bids get revoked. And with a win Saturday, the Irish can put the whole debate to rest, sending the Notre Dame clause back into the corner with alien sightings, Kennedy rumors and other conspiracy theories.

But if they lose, watch for the Irish to start paying closer attention to a military school in the Rocky Mountains.

Many laughed at the possibility of Notre Dame and Air Force playing each other with perfect records on the line. Imagine what they'll do if Notre Dame gets into the BCS by holding onto Air Force's jet.

The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and not necessarily those of The Observer. Contact Andrew Soukup a asoukup@nd.edu.
http://www.nd.edu/~observer/10182002/Sports/1.html

Even if it is a few years old, I'd think a Notre Dame source would qualify as acceptable for you?

Originally Posted by xman25
The Yankees, how many times, by how many preseason publication, over the past few years were the Yankees picked to win the World Series? Answer: a lot.
How many times have the Yankees advanced to the postseason and the World Series based on the opinions and votes of sportswriters who are awed by the Yankees aura of past achievements? Answer: never.

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Old Oct 15, 2006, 05:24 AM Local time: Oct 15, 2006, 05:24 AM #5 of 166
Originally Posted by Ryuu
Anyone see the recap of the Miami/FIU fight - I mean game. lol
For those who haven't had the debatable pleasure. Since Miami was involved, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Even if FIU started it this time.

The color commentator sounded like he was more enthusiastic about it than some of the players.

Originally Posted by bighunt
plus, we COULD lose to Mississippi State next week. jesus h.....
Good one. Even if UGA still has the inside at winning the #5 spot on the Bottom 10 this week, they're not bad enough that Mississippi State should give them a challenge.

Speaking of rankings, with Florida losing, I have to wonder if the polls will finally move USC up to #2, or if they'll move Michigan past them. I personally think Michigan should get it, but enough of the voters may think differently.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 2, 2006, 09:51 AM Local time: Nov 2, 2006, 09:51 AM #6 of 166
Originally Posted by Trigunnerz
At least USC is above Cal and Notre Dame. At this rate, we'll definitely go to one of the four bowl games.
USC has to win against Cal before it can start thinking of playing (probably) Michigan, and this year, they may not even do that. Not to mention, being 8th in the BCS standings doesn't guarantee them anything, since Boise State seems well on its way to qualifying, and the top three ACC teams are all ranked below USC at present.

On the plus side, I hear the weather in San Diego is wonderful.

Of course, the BCS is going to get shaken up tonight anyway.

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Old Dec 2, 2006, 11:48 PM Local time: Dec 2, 2006, 11:48 PM #7 of 166
Originally Posted by Arainach
Wait, why am I defending the school that I hate with all my soul?
Because you want to see Ohio State beat them again. Why lie.

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Old Dec 3, 2006, 01:53 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2006, 01:53 AM #8 of 166
We'll find out tomorrow. Just as Notre Dame will find out if it gets to go to a BCS bowl tomorrow.

USC doesn't need to worry about that, though.

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 12:05 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 12:05 PM #9 of 166
Originally Posted by Trigunnerz
I have a feeling OSU is going to rape Florida.
Originally Posted by DragoonKain
Florida will get killed.
Originally Posted by Drex
I would honestly be very surprised if Florida put up very much of a fight.
You know, Jim Tressel would be the first to tell you to not be so certain about things like that; Ohio State won their last national championship against a Miami team that was supposed to rape the Buckeyes like everyone here is saying the Buckeyes will Florida.

Seriously, it's not like this Florida team backed into the championship like Oklahoma did its last two trips.

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