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Why is the murder rate in the US so high?
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Vinjeux
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 09:35 AM #1 of 83
Why is the murder rate in the US so high?

Murder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can anyone elaborate? Is it the drugs? poverty? guns?

I mean, we have a death penalty for murder....on the flipside we allow guns in homes.

It's not just numbers, its a ratio. This is what i came to after doing some calc math.

Canada - .1757

France - .000015625 (how do they do it?)

USA - 5.6 (why are we so deadly)

Brazil - 3.0054644808743169398907103825137e-4 (lol wtf?)

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 03:09 AM #2 of 83
Then like I said, it definitely varies from state to state.

I agree with Phoenix though in that our culture is a lot more violent than other cultures.

I usually laugh at how Europe is a bunch of pansies when it comes to movie violence, and how the US cringes at the mention of the word 'sex'. But in reality I'd say a lenient attitude towards sex is a helluva lot more healthy for everyone than a lenient attitude towards violence.

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Just for anyone who is interested (and hopefully this will help explain some of my attitudes about gun laws):

Indiana Gun Laws:

Rifles and Shotguns

* Permit to purchase rifles and shotguns? No.
* Registration of rifles and shotguns? No.
* Licensing of owners of rifles and shotguns? No.
* Permit to carry rifles and shotguns? No.

Handguns

* Permit to purchase handgun? No.
* Registration of handguns? No.
* Licensing of owners of handguns? No.
* Permit to carry handguns? Yes.

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In addition, we've got a lifetime handgun permit, you can buy any gun you want just by showing up at a gun show, no background checks, permits, or anything needed. We used to have a seven day waiting period before you could buy a firearm, but that was done away with in the late 1990's. You have to go through a Federal background check, but only a state background check for handguns. This means shotguns, rifles, and most assault weapons not only require no permit or license to carry, you aren't checked at a state level for them (which I believe is a lot more efficient than Federal checks).

The only thing I'm glad Indiana does have is the law that lets you shoot trespassers on sight when you feel you are threatened. The whole "your home is your castle" doctrine-law-thingy.

I don't know where you live but here, if you want a gun, even a handgun, it's a piece of cake.
OK. If I get what your saying, Indiana makes it very easy to get a gun.

Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indiana - 5.1 homicide

It looks here like Indiana is on the safer end of the spectrum. Ranked 30/50, yet gun control is very legal. In a very small example it looks like Guns DONT have a large impact on murder. On the other hand one can argue that not much goes on in Indiana. Then again, Indianapolis had on average, 6x as many murders in 1998 than other countries...

Back to why we're all fucked...

I agree with what some of the above posters said. Americans are very work inclined, stressed, and exposed to some *sweet* violence. They also aren't as luvvy duvvy with members of the community like they are in other parts of the world (excluding Boaz, Alabama) so taking someones life wouldn't be as personal.

I know in France, they kiss everyone on the check whenever they meet, even if they are strangers. Go into a dorm room and try that here.

Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most murders are among young men, 200-27 *I think*. 52.1% are black males, and most (87%) or murders are intraracial.

I'm surprised no one mentioned how immature the kids are in the United States (I consider kids 0-21, but the immaturity can easily, and often will, go beyond 21). Highs schools lack discipline sooo much, the kids do what they want. They get their cars and freedom, and still do what they want. They speed and crash. They drink and drive. They get girls pregnant without caring. They barely do schoolwork and still graduate with honors. They drink diet pepsi....the list goes on

I'm not saying kids aren't immature all over the world, but it's much worse in the United States. I've been to a few places in Europe, and the kids almost seem boring, because they act like adults. Like a party for them is sitting around talking about politics, sipping wine and occasionally dancing. They don't take risks at all. They are so mature at such a young age it's like WTF!!

@DARKLINK

I think it's stupid too, how we ban sex but flaunt violence. MAKES NO SENSE.

I don't know about that law for trespassers. I mean, self defense should be enough, no? What if you want to frame someone? Like, someone from work.

Hey man, come on over for some coffee after work.

OK.

This is my home.

*Shotgun to the dome*

officers he was trespassing!!

How ya doing, buddy?

Last edited by Vinjeux; Mar 4, 2008 at 03:15 AM.
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