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islam, the religion of love...
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Old Jul 22, 2008, 02:35 AM 8 #1 of 190
Every religion tells us to be good and kind to others. Of course there are times when people wage war to each other for the sake of their religion. Which religion is right? Which one is wrong?

For me, the people are always right. War are wage mostly because the leader 'wants' to carve his name in the history book. Glory. Never in the heart of people wanting to kill each other.

If there is a person ask you to hurt somebody. Ignore this person. If religion ask you to kill another, ignore this religion. We do not need casualty in every conflicts. I believe that people can avoid war through negotiation only if the representatives are thinking for the sake of the people not for the sake of one race.

Nowadays, it seems like Islam is not a religion of peace but is it true? I never see an Islamic country suddenly attack another country. Islamic country are passive. Counterattack after being attacked but then labeled as the one who attacks first. This I do not understand.

See Israel who attacks Palestine first. See America who attacks Iraq first. Most of us still remember 9/11, strangely; no Israeli were hurt in that accident. Why is that?
Let's not oversimplify religion here. They all "tell us to be good", sure, but I'm sure you would disagree with the "good" called for in classical Islamic law. Of course, none of the Muslims I know (~2) follow or want to follow classical Islamic law--just like no Catholic really reads the catechisms of the church. That's not to say that Islam and Catholicism have equally 'modern' values. Most Muslims in the West are only a few generations away from poorer societies with more traditional values. This carries over into their lives but is generally being lost in the next generation--it really depends. The biggest mistake that people make is trying to pretend there is a "true Islam". It's idiocy to believe that the sources of Islam only have one meaning especially when it's not something you believe in. All kinds of Muslims interpret it differently and pretending that you are Muslim so you believe X is ... well, wrong. And it's just as stupid when liberal folks say "Islam is a religion of peace". For some it is. For some it's not. It's really not that hard... you don't need to make a sweeping decision about whether it's a good or bad religion. And while it may be a handful of extremists who want to fly planes into buildings. It's not a handful who greatly resent Israel and Western power. Most of them aren't going to take up arms or preemptively attack but when our soldiers cause them harm pent up anger explodes... along with some shrapnel.

Leaders don't go to war just to put their names in history books. There are many reasons--not just one cause. It's not just oil and it's not just pride. There are lots of reasons which historians will try to reconstruct.

And you should read some history to see Muslim nations go to war with each other. They are not "passive" Iran saber rattles. Iraq saber rattled. But so does a lot of the developing world. But it's by no means passive. Iran went to War with Iraq. Iraq invaded Kuwait. Indonesia and Malaysia were on the brink of war. But nor are they pugilistic in general.

As for the Jews not dying in the WTC... well, the crematoria of yesteryear helped them develop heat resistant skin. They just rolled up into balls and went home. Not their fault they adapted well.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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