As if the headaches weren't enough- 3D warps your vision

Also because 3d is fucking stupid.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Really, Brady? Avatar?

O yeah, so groundbreaking.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

The 3D in Avatar was gorgeous. But it was hardly groundbreaking. Unless making things look good in Hollywood is suddenly a new phenomena and no one got to it yet. James Cameron did new things with 3D, invented some new technology, sure.

But did it add anything to that horrible film outside of suckering a lot of people into financing Cameron's next boat/house/shitty cartoon that was better when it had Tone-Loc in it? Not really. I don't think 3D has ever done anything to improve the medium, and I doubt it ever will. A cute gimmick, sure, but in its current state its complete rubbish.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by JohnKimble

Huh and here I was, thinking movies were for enjoyment. I guess next time I go to the cinemas I'll instead try to judge the film on its ability to improve the state of Hollywood.

If you enjoyed Avatar, there's no amount of intellectual rationalization I can make to change your mind. You like the taste of shit, who am I to tell you to try maybe a nice risotto instead? Films are for enjoyment. I agree. And if you enjoy bland, idiotic entertainment that condescends to you like a three year old while you clap at the pretty colours, good for you. Enjoy your pablum. I've had the "film doesn't have to be art" discussion with people I'm betting are much smarter and more involved than you, so I'll not be bothering with that today. You want to have that fight, go poke LeHah. He still seems to care about it.

Of course, if we're discussing the merits of 3D, acting like "it made the smurfs movie look cool so it's good don't argue k?" is a valid stance is sort of asinine. I mean, sure, it inflates budgets and is yet another excuse for hollywood to make more blockbusters with high effects and bad scripts. And sure it's just yet another gimmick to sell tickets instead of actually bothering to do something new and innovative like write interesting movies, hire inspired directors and take a chance on more artistic DPs. Sure, it is basically the film version of trying to convince your mates you go to the thai massage parlour for the massage. End of the day, some rubbing oils or not, you're still looking to get your knob polished by a hooker.

But yeah. 3D is all good and grand. Hurray and all that.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by sprouticus

Why would you want to try and change anyone's opinion on anything to begin with? Why can't people just enjoy stuff without needing to provide rationalization for some asshat on the internet?

Says the guy who immediately goes on to try and convince the world how terrible 3D is. Why can't you just let people enjoy their stupid technology, Sprout?

Really. Why would you want to try and change anyone's opinion on anything to begin with. Why can't people just enjoy stuff without needing to provide rationalization for some asshat on the internet?

I mean it makes movies so cool. Why do you have to be a killjoy who ruins their fun by pointing out what's wrong with something they like.

God, informed opinions. It's like... why even bother? Every point is equally valid.

We've had this discussion a hundred times, Sprout. Nothing is going to change your opinion that my beliefs make me look like an elitist, pretentious jerk off, and nothing will change my opinion that your beliefs look like infantile garbage born of some tune out and enjoy concept that never worked. So maybe a better question than why do I argue with people on the internet I don't know, is why do you continue to argue with someone on the internet who you know you won't convince?

And I'm sure you'll come up with some hugely contrived wall of text to point out how wrong I am about all this, but end of the day we both have opinions, we both express them. We just happen to be on opposite ends of most of those opinions. Because if you're not rationalizing your opinion on the internet anymore, I guess we won't be hearing how the next movie you go see was via a three page review.

Not everything in my world is 10/10, Sprout. And if expressing that makes people who try and use "everyone has a right to an opinion" as a defense for not having the mind or the desire to better their base of knowledge angry, I'm kind of okay with being the asshole on that one.

And no, I don't count you in that category. Even if I disagree and tease you about some of the stuff you like, you've also seen, and appreciated, a lot of quality cinema. My issue is with people who put up a list of ten movies they've seen that year and they're all interchangeable crap.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Except I never said that about him. I said the film was shit and idiotic. I specifically pointed out I was going to sit there and argue it with him, because there was no point. The only time I referred to John specifically was to say I've had the argument with smarter people. Because I have. For all I know he might be a bright guy, but I've had this argument with film historians, so I really don't feel the need to have it again. I berated the film, and if he straps his self-worth to a movie he likes and I hurt his feelings, well that's too bad.

Do you think anyone who buys a 3D tv is a rich asshole, or lame-as-fuck, or shitty? Because you used all those words in your post, even if you were referring to the technology, and not the people using them.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Of course they all suck, but whatever...

How ya doing, buddy?