[DS] Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

No, I'm with you on the Fitting Room; they really needed to bring back Tactics' Optimize option for it. The only advantage I see to not having Optimize is that it forces you to look through the shop's selection, which ensures that you don't miss any equipment that might offer you new skills for your current job.

You know what TA needs to bring back from FFT? The mature, well plotted out story. The interesting game play. The feeling of depth. Optimize sort of pales in comparison to that.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

Honestly, I don't mind it if a game doesn't take itself too seriously. Some of my favorite moments in Tactics were when the party took a break from Lucavi and did things like, say, activate Worker 8.

As for depth and gameplay, I really don't think you can argue that A2 is lacking in that regard. The second you bust open the menu or take a look at the Bazaar, you see the game is anything but shallow.

Depth of story, not gameplay.

And you and I just disagree on what we want in a game. I think the best part of FFT was keeping track of the secondary characters and the world around them. The rise and fall of nations and the literary quality they imbued into the storytelling. It was epic and wonderful.

You like robots and slapstick comedy, and that's fine. But there was no reason to turn FFT from what it was into, as LeHah called it, a fantasy cliche.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Magus-Cie

The original FFT was early enough RPG wise that it set the fantasy cliche. FFTA, and from the sounds of it FFTA2 both are severely lacking in that department.

What?

FFT was a nice self-contained story, well written and solidly executed.

FFTA starts out with a book that transports a little boy to a fantasy world. It's the Neverending Story. It's lighthearted and that's great. But that's not FFT.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

Yeah, that's not Final Fantasy Tactics. It's Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

Do you have anything to contribute to A2 discussion, or is this going to continue to diverge towards why Tactics is so awesome?

Actually, how it started was me criticizing A2 for following in A1's footsteps, and how it feels cheap, and sort of see-through. Which it does. The Final Fantasy Tactics series has dissolved into a mechanics based grindfest, which is unfortunate, given its pedigree. It's like Madden 09 of the Final Fantasy series. Sure, they updated the stats and added a few new players, but its essentially the same game as the year before. And that's tragic. They could have done something interesting with Ivalice, but they seem quite content to let it languish in mediocrity. Sorry not everyone agrees with your taste in games.

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass

Quit trying to goad me with these little one-liners at the end; it's annoying. You know perfectly well that I'm being reasonable here.

I talk about how they should have reimplemented Optimization in the fitting room and you follow up with a tirade about how they could put so many other things from Tactics in. Well, Final Fantasy Tactics is super and all, but I'm talking about the fitting room. In Final Fantasy Tactics A2. And you're not.

And yet you keep arguing with me, as if we're talking about the same thing. How strange. How bizarre.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Watermelon Overflow

Since when was Marche a wuss? Marche was a dick, trying to take away the cripple's fantasy land where he could walk. Back into your wheelchair, bitch.

That said, I'm about 18 hours into MARCHE YOU DICK 2 and I love it. 0 complaints. The "No X Race Action" Law is a new one but that's easily avoided by having a little you know, variety in your damn party.

Adelle ain't even half bad either. The real stars of the game are Viera though. Not even gonna lie.

Bangaa come in close for the Dragoon/Gladiator/Defender classes.

SUPER EDIT: I hope that at some point down the road I don't kick my own ass for not doing Veteran during General Training I. I went for Professional and actually ended up clearing it in under the 3 round requirement for Veteran but couldn't be assed to go back and redo it.

BACK IN THE CHAIR, YOU CRIPPLE FUCK!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Heard the guide for this is supposed to be released this week. Anyone have any of DAT GAMING NEWS?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Sousuke

I got my CycloDS in the mail today [whoo!] so I'm finally able to start playing this. I've finished the first quest and the bunch of tutorials that come along with it, and I think I'm finally 'free' to start picking up quests.

Any tips for someone just starting off? Anything I might miss that you can't pick up later? Stuff like that?

There is a trick to playing this game and enjoying it.

Now it's complicated, so pay attention.

When you go to start the game? Don't. Instead, turn on a PSX and play Final Fantasy Tactics.

Awesome.

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Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

Don't listen to Deni. He's just angry that none of the characters has a neckbeard.

Or a personality.

GET BACK IN THE FUCKING CHAIR, NUTTY.

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