[Multiplatform] Official Final Fantasy XIII Thread

There are no words beyond this:

Fuck you, Nomura. Fuck you in the ass. You're the worst designer I've ever seen.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Inhert

the Nomura case as already been brought up a lot of time and never ended good so please just don't start again >.>

It's been brought up a lot of time, has it? And it never ended good? Where did you go to school, clown college?

Both of these games look like more rehashed modern Square-Enix rubbish. I just hope that one day they figure out how they've left storytelling far behind, instead settling for pumping out things like Final Fantasy XIII: The My Chemical Romance Years. I get it, idiot teenage angst-cases buy video games. I understand the economics of it, but good lord. We've had enough of this. We can mix it up from time to time, couldn't we?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Aardark

XIII Versus looks comically emo, but XIII will probably be pretty awesome, frankly.

At any rate you can't say that they've left storytelling behind, since a) you can't tell shit about the story from a minute-long video; and b) bwahaha yeah, as if Final Fantasy ever had amazing storytelling. Don't even mention VI. SNES-era RPGs trying to present deep story is like a puppet troupe acting out Shakespeare.

Yeah, I appreciate that argument, Megalith.

I'd also point out that actually, puppets are a very viable form of theatre, and there have been some very successful marionette-based Shakespeare productions over the year. But hey, good swing, Casey at the bat.

It will be pretty awesome, frankly? So, you're of the opinion that it's going to be good. Fair enough, that's your call. But I'm of the opinion that SE hasn't given us any reason in the recent past to assume this will be anything but utter garbage. And if you can see the trailer for Final Fantasy: The Crow and assume they're turning things around, you're a bloody delusional, you are.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Aardark

I'm not expecting them to turn anything around, but yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the game regardless -- judging from the only thing I can judge from the trailer, that being the art direction. It looks a lot like Final Fantasy VIII. Whether VIII was overall a good game is... debatable, I guess, but its setting is probably my favourite out of all the FF games. If XIII looks like that, but with 3rd generation PS3 graphics, and the story and gameplay are at least passable (they will be, I don't doubt that), then the game'll definitely be worth my sixty dollars.

As for 'The Crow', I already made two posts stating that I think Versus looks like bullshit. At any rate, it's not even an RPG.


Well, yeah, Final Fantasy VI was very successful as well, right? That doesn't mean I have to take it seriously. To me, Kefka makes great villain in the same way as a sock puppet makes a great Hamlet. I'm not saying VI isn't a good game, I just don't think it's some shining masterpiece of storytelling that still makes all the following games pale in comparison.

I've discovered our impasse. You think it resembling FF VIII is a good thing, whereas I see ties to FF VIII and try not to dry heave. VIII is by far the worst game in the series for me. Beautiful music, but unbelievably terrible story and characters. So it's just that we like different installations of the series. See how nice I was? I didn't even refer to it as Final Fantasy VIII: Dawson's Creek or anything. God did I loathe that game... Same orphanage? Worst twist in the history of gaming.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Aardark

I wasn't really talking about the story. I didn't even finish the game, since I was playing it on an emulator, and something got fucked up at the end of the second disc. I meant the setting, as in the futuristic style. Less games set in standard pseudo-medieval fantasy worlds is always a good thing to me.

Oh, fair enough, sir. Yeah, the setting to VIII was pretty boffo. I mean, if flying around an entire Garden wasn't cool, I don't know what is. And hell, if the whole game (or at least the majority) had been like the beginning, all fantasy-tech with the military, I'd have been all over it. Though I don't mind pseudo-medieval (being the rabid FFT fan I am).

Originally Posted by Cetra

Just wondering. How do you equate graphic styling to the storyline? You seem to have this ability to know the storyline of a game just based on its style which I admit is an amazing feat.

FF13 does remind me of FF8s setting as well and actually the setting in FF8 was one of the few things I enjoyed from the game. The cyber-punk style was interesting and a nice detachment from the steam-punk styling normally found in Final Fantasy games and it looks like FF13 is going with this style.

The simply fact that the main character already cracks a smile at the end of that short trailer leads me to believe that we aren't dealing with a Squall or Cloud personality clone. But of course these are just guesses and I'm at least willing to give the game a chance rather than condemn the story and the game itself based on some of the strangest correlations I've ever come across.

I'm not drawing anything from the trailer outside of Nomura being a fucking terrible character designer. What I'm culling from is the fact I haven't liked much of anything Square has done recently in terms of story, so until they prove otherwise, I'm assuming they're going to keep up with this trite bullshit they've been feeding us. XIII hits us with a good bit of storytelling, I'll stop saying they've been useless for years. But I'm not holding my breath.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Tsunade

Okay I LOOOOOOVE the dark/goth/emo look in FF vs XIII - it's beautiful, different, exciting and dark!

Really.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz

Actually, the 360 has been THE RPG console this generation so far.

There hasn't been an RPG console yet. Largely because no one's released a decent RPG since for next gen consoles.

Multiplatform is not a bad idea. Though it'll be interesting to see how they factor in the blu-ray to not blu-ray transfer on this one.

Also, FF XIII. Who cares which console your esper becomes a bike on? Won't make it any less depressing and Nomura-ridden.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Toaster Overflow

That's what I mean. If the big game you're waiting for is FFXIII, which was announced in like 2006 and probably won't be released until the end of this year at the minimum, why did you buy a console before now? Were there other games coming out for the PS3 that you wanted? That's all I'm asking, why people bought a console for a game that was going to come out well over a year or two later than the purchase.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

Leaked Versus trailer

FF-XIII.net ~ Final Fantasy XIII - Versus XIII - Agito XIII

There was a shot in the trailer that had a Reno and Rude lookalike. One thing I won't deny, Nomura needs some fucking versatility.

Though I still like pretty FF FMV girls as my Icon...

You know, I realise that was entirely for my benefit, and yet still, I'm placated.

I almost hope this goes multi-console, just so the internet can explode again.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Seriously. This game just keeps looking worse and worse.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Abominable K

His afro doubles as a Chocobo nest. I'm not joking.

Please, please be joking.

Please.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

What does Shadow even have to do with anything? This guy is clearly the Square's Idea Of Comic Relief character. He will do and say intentionally ridiculous things and generally distract us from whatever maundering SAVE THE WORLD plot it is that we're supposed to give a shit about. This type is exemplified in previous titles by Yuffie, Selphie, and Quina among others. Uptight internet jerks hated all of them, too.

Booyaka!

Selphie?

Wait, you mean there was a character in VIII that wasn't supposed to be a joke we laughed at every time they spoke?

Man, did I miss the point of that game.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Andrew Evenstar

Didn't show anything new? Did you even watch the trailer? Fails due to lack of Chocobo guy? yeah ok, you seem like the typical FFXII hater.

It had new real time battles.

If I'm not mistaken that hadn't been shown like that before.

Ahahaha. If you don't see why that post was hilarious, you're beyond all hope, Andrew. Take Square's cock out of your mouth, you look ridiculous.

Typical fanboy.

:smug:

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

While you're partially right, given the context, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Then again, I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that the FF series is known to have pioneered besides colorful anal beads materia attachments.

Oh come on. Modern Final Fantasy might be an abortion crawling across the floor, but the classics are some of the best out there.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Inhert

the only reason they said they won't put both dub on the sp3 version is that they want both the 360 and ps3 version to have all the same feature. They are aiming for the 360 version to be 3dvd so there's no way they are able to include all the Japaneses tracks...

In before whiny console fags on both sides of the argument.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by a lurker

yeah, for real Shin. Who here didn't have a moment of embarrassment when someone normal walked in on us right when Sora embraced Riku, or when Tidus was laughing unconvincingly? I think it would be less embarrassing if I was caught watching He-Man episodes.

YouTube Video

Have fun explaining that one to grandma when she shows up for christmas dinner.

YouTube Video

YouTube Video

"No mom. The tit-jiggling is important to show off the physics engine. It's science."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgHxu...os=Y6tQvGoFjE4

(Must sign in to watch)

"Yeah, I got nothing for this one."

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Andrew Evenstar

Yeah the cover art is crap... oh well :/

Maybe, if we're lucky, the box turns into a pick-up truck and we can ride it.

Because that would make it awesome, wouldn't it?

Fuck this clown game.

I also think they should re-title the series, so it is more in line with their current trend in giving things names. Final Fantasy is dead. Long live Final Cumulus Cluster. Or Flash Flood Fantasy. Maybe even, dare I dream, Slight Drizzle XIII.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I bet you can find towns while you ride around on your Go-Botesque summons.

:sigh:

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Well, presentation is pretty much the only aspect I don't worry about with Squeenix these days. Towns are the least of my panic.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

So it seems Digital Foundry has come out with their comparison between the 360 and the PS3 in their FACE-OFF section. In what may be only their second time ever, they come down clearly on the PS3 version being superior. You know when DF is siding with the PS3, there's a decent gap between the two.

Face-Off: Final Fantasy XIII | DigitalFoundry

Summation: If you have both systems, get the PS3 version.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Inhert

The PS3 is only the better version because Square-Enix fucked up the compression on the 360, but hey it was that and get it now or wait another six month for both version just for it to be properly ported on the 360.

Should check that link I posted, Inhert. Apparently it isn't all SE fucking up compression. There's quite a few issues.

I was speaking idiomatically.

You know, I keep hearing this game gets good 15 hours in. But if I'm having trouble stomaching the first 15 hours of gameplay, I really don't care how good the rest of the game is. It's poorly designed.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by HELP ME I AM FAT

So the fact that the battles get really intense when you get there and the idea of needing to either grind or do the battles really well to 5 star the missions doesn't appeal to --

Being right in an argument about video games... that's okay.

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Wait a minute.



No. I'm not discussing quality of RPGs with someone who ranks Final Fantasy VIII above any other Final Fantasy.

Realising why arguing about video games with Andrew is like arguing with BZ about anything at all?



FELIPE NO