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What is a furry?
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Old Jan 11, 2008, 07:48 PM Local time: Jan 11, 2008, 06:48 PM 3 #1 of 82
I preface this statement by offering up my personal bias:

[18:40] <Denicalis> God fucking damnit. I actually hate furries a little less since I learned about Otakukin. But only a little.

Now, what are furries? There's a ton of different types of furries, but let's focus on the furries that everyone on the internet hates (with good reason). These are the miserable little sodomites with a martyr complex. They use words like "murr," "fursecution," "fursona" and "misunfurstood." Now, why do people hate these people? Because they're fucking stupid. They assume that people hate them because they're furries. Which isn't true. People hate them because they're trying to force their niche little kinks down other people's throats. Someone who kept repeatedly feeling the need to bring every conversation back to a love of bondage would get the same treatment.

These furries can't interact in the real world. They've let the fantasy become a crutch and they're completely unable to talk to normal people. They are social misfits and -that's- why we hate them. And we do. God do we ever. If it were people who just said "I like fucking people while wearing a costume" sure, we'd make light... but we wouldn't loathe them. Most people who just like the art, not a problem... but if everything you like or talk about has to somehow get back to furry shit (Looking at you, Freelance) people will hate you. Because you're boring, and you have a martyr complex, and you're very, very dull.

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Old Jan 11, 2008, 11:12 PM Local time: Jan 11, 2008, 10:12 PM #2 of 82
I think RR's point is less about the intent of the creators, and more about how liking Ninja Turtles and Robin Hood doesn't make you a furry. So furries need to stop trying to tell everyone that liking anthropomorphic cartoon ________ makes you as much of a whiny cunt as they are.

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Old Jan 14, 2008, 05:12 PM Local time: Jan 14, 2008, 04:12 PM 3 #3 of 82
Just watched that BBC documentary and, holy shit, although there's nothing new and earth-shattering there, it doesn't stop me from being weirded the FUCK out by these people. I'm all for the freedom to pursue an alternative lifestyle or what have you, but I'm just filled with overwhelming pity for these people.

Go ahead and beat off to as many toons as you please - just keep your fucking fursuit frolicking under wraps. aaaaaaahhhh
Well that's the problem, isn't it? Weird sexual kinks are fine. Almost all of us have them, but it's the constant whining about it that's frustrating. This is why most furries on GFF are fine. They're just people who like drawings of anthros. Cool, great. But there is a brand of furry that can talk about nothing else. They fixate. Everything is animals or anthros or furry-speak. This is dull and irritating. People would hate someone who did this about something benign. Yogourt, for instance. If all you did was fucking blather on about yogourt and yogourt related topics, people would get irritated with you.

Now, couple that with trying to force the weird, niche sex shit on the public and be "accepted" for it? No, go fuck yourself. You have sex fetishes great, but don't expect people to hug you and say it's ok.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.


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Old Jan 14, 2008, 07:19 PM Local time: Jan 14, 2008, 06:19 PM 4 #4 of 82
My question is, why animals. Can't they pretend to be something slightly less embarassing when they attempt to hide their social ineptitude.
You mean like pretending to be Zeal when you're inept socially? Is that less embarrassing?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?


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Old Jan 14, 2008, 08:19 PM Local time: Jan 14, 2008, 07:19 PM #5 of 82
If your culture pool says stuff like Zeal is cool, then of course it's less embarrassing! Or if emo death metal is your thing, of course it's awesome and not lame to go dress up like a goth rocker. Or maybe you're part of the cultural armada of sports fans and armchair quarterbacks, living out their penis-enhancing fantasies via their athletic heroes. It's certainly not stupid or embarrassing to go around wearing imitation football jerseys bearing the name and number of the substitute, modern-day war-god that you worship and identify with to bolster your self-image.

Anything can be made to seem stupid, foolish, or lame, and embarrassing. Sometimes, I think what really pisses certain people off, is seeing somebody happily doing or being something the viewer is embarrassed by personally. It's like a challenge to the onlookers security. I remember knowing a guy who was embarrassed whenever cartoons - any cartoons - were playing on a TV in the room. He thought all cartoons were idiotic and for 5 year old children. He further felt that just by being nearby a cartoon, he would be associated with them and thus seen as "immature".
Zeal here, of course, referencing the gamingforce member that Megalith does his best impersonation of with his posting style. Making that entire rant pretty much pointless on your part, mate.

Aside from that little bit of head-up-your-own-assery, you did a decent job of summing up what everyone else had already said. It is not furries, but a specific group of furries that are the reason most people hate them. However, I do think you're doing your best to obfuscate the point that there are underlying aspects to furry culture that make them easily despised in the public eye. I'd guess it's because, as you said, you have a lot of friends who would self-identify as furries, and possibly would yourself--or perhaps you'd say otherkin, or otakukin or whatever rubbish you prescribe to--and don't wish to slag on the community as a whole. And that's fine. Maybe you have some close friends that are completely normal and like to dress up like animals, or even just like the art. No one is saying furries can't be good people, we're saying that furry culture, inherently, has some pretty overwhelming undercurrents of what-the-fuck going through it. I.E. the martyr complex and the drama that follows them. At the heart, what's been said is this: Like fucked up shit that no one else will care about. That's great. But don't expect hugs and candy for your troubles.

I was speaking idiomatically.


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Old Jan 14, 2008, 08:22 PM Local time: Jan 14, 2008, 07:22 PM #6 of 82
You do realize being at the bottom of the rung of nerd fandoms is just about as bad as it gets, right?
Not QUITE the bottom...



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