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[News] FFIV Sequel... yes for cell phones :/
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Old Dec 14, 2007, 05:20 PM Local time: Dec 14, 2007, 04:20 PM #1 of 83
This is fucking ridiculous. It's like Square has decided all the old school players are already pissed off at them, so alienating them further just doesn't matter. If it was a port to a cel phone, I'd be less upset. But a sequel? I wonder if in this sequel we get to see Cecil completely abandon his character traits and become a Charlie's Angelesque parody of himself. Because that would be great.

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Old Dec 15, 2007, 04:29 AM Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 03:29 AM #2 of 83
If the game had been about the War of the Magi instead of the years after that, I would have been glued. The plot itself seemed to be brewing into something big but it was destroyed along with the world in the snap of a finger.
Yeah, if only they could have gone to the moon. Would have been so much better.

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Old Dec 15, 2007, 01:56 PM Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 12:56 PM 4 #3 of 83
2 things that are sad here:

1. People who hate FF4 are IN A THREAD ABOUT FF4.
2. People are saying how bad the sequel will be when absolutely nobody knows what the hell its going to be like. Maybe they are just mad it's for cell phones and are creating excuses to hate it so they can make themselves believe its bad to not get it.
Except that both Lurker and I like FF4. So, you know, you fail there. Also, this thread isn't about FF4, it's about FF4-II. So, you know, you fail there.

Also, please name me a single cell phone game with a rich storyline that isn't just random jap filler. Oh yeah, you can't do it, because it doesn't exist. It's never existed, and it won't in the immediate future. There are size constraints, there are display restraints, and there are design restraints to working on a cel phone. The fact you think this is anything but a cash grab is laughable. Go rock your fanboyism somewheres else, we like a certain amount of basic logic in our posters here.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.


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Old Dec 15, 2007, 03:20 PM Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 02:20 PM 3 #4 of 83
With the way some of you speak, you all come off as FF4 haters.
Oh, you're just precious. So saying there was a single aspect of the game that made me balk means I came off as someone who hated the game? So I suppose if I say that I don't like my girlfriend's choice in shoes, I hate her? Because yeah, that makes a whole bucket full of sense, that does. Lurker said that Cecil isn't a super strong character. And he's not. Doesn't mean she doesn't like the game. The problem with you is that you think you have to love everything about something in order to appreciate it. It's called critical thinking, you should give it a whirl some time.

You're especially laughable when earlier in this very thread, I expressed frustration with SE alienating people who liked their older works. I.E. people who liked FF IV. I.E. me.

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So I didn't fail anywhere if I perceived you guys as haters. You sure did a great job coming off as such.
Actually, it means you failed to perceive the situation properly. So, you know, you failed there. But again, good hustle out there.

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Old Dec 15, 2007, 03:44 PM Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 02:44 PM 1 #5 of 83
Regardless, it's retarded that everyone responded to the news with hatred. Yes, I know, every cell phone game sucks, but if FF1 (a game from 1987) is an excellent video game, surely they can do a better job than that times 100000 for FF4-2... so ya never know what can happen.
Yeah, except if someone was to bring out the original Final Fantasy right now, I'd say it was sparse, lacked depth and suffered from a lack of playability because in context, it wouldn't stack up.

And the problem is yes, we do know what can happen. We've seen what Square does with cell phone games. They're not very impressive. So no, they probably can't do a game that's a hundred thousand times better than FF1, because they're doing it on a very limiting medium. They've castrated themselves before they even start. FF IV is loved for being a deep story with interesting characters. So they went somewhere that limits the amount of story you can show and used a story that wrapped up very nicely as their launch point and a game that didn't really -need- a follow up, I might add. So really all they can do is cheapen the existing game with a faulty follow-up.

"Why would everyone respond poorly to a widely loved game getting raped and thrown on a terrible medium with little to no chance of success? I mean, guys, it's unfair to assume something is going to suck just because all signs point to it sucking."

Get real, son.

I was speaking idiomatically.


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Old Dec 15, 2007, 03:54 PM Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 02:54 PM 1 #6 of 83
It is indeed sad that it's for cell phones. I have no idea of SE's track record with making cell phone games since I've seen none. Maybe I was being optimistic from the start but I may have no reason to be. If it's a nice, simple FF game with a smart menu and decent story, that is the best we can hope for.
No, it fucking isn't. You're basically saying as long as Square does the bare fucking minimum, we should be thrilled.

No. I expect them to be the best in the business at what they do. They have the resources to be extraordinary in their work, and the fact that people are willing to let them slide by with bare minimums is why they keep giving us just that. A smart menu and a decent story is NOT the best we can hope for. We can actively hope they pull their collective heads out of their asses and give us a good game.

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