[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

I still don't know how much I'll like this battle system. Everything else seems top notch, but I fucking hate MMO battle styles. They're just lame.

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

It was rumored a couple of weeks ago that there would be an FFXIII DS strategy game, but a FFXII one that plays like FFT seems more reasonable. And inviting.

It has been mentioned before that a game with Basch as the main character was considered, so this might be the culmination of those rumors put together, like DoC was.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/09/08

I find Penny Arcade's lack of faith disturbing.

Shut up, fanboy. That comic was hilarious. Seriously, Soldier. You're the fucking embodiment of Walt and Steve Dave. Learn to laugh at the things you care about, or you have no fucking right to so much as smirk at the things you don't.

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Originally Posted by Spinal Tap

Major sites/magazines such as IGN, Famitsu, PSM, etc. deserve a bit more credit than random message board posters, and know more about the profession than any of you.

IGN deserves more credit? AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, you poor, poor boy. You don't really understand how the industry works, do you? Famitsu, I'll give you. They're usually pretty solid. The other two you listed are a complete fucking joke.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

You people should have taken religious studies or mythology courses, you'd know all of these already.

Also, yes, they murder french pronunciations. I think they did it to appeal to the American audience. "I DIDN'T ORDER NO FREEDOM GAME. WHY ARE THEY ALL SPEAKING FREEDOM?"

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

5. I don't recall the Empire in FFVI being called the "Gestahl Empire" (after the emperor). I remember "The Empire" and "Vector".

COMMAND TO THE EMPIRE IN PARTICULAR.

It was the Empire Gesthalt, to be exact, I believe. But they lost it in the translation. It's in the PSX one.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Black Mamba

Its true, I'm pretty sure its the Zodiac Spear. I have no idea why they would include this, probably to sell more guides. I honestly hate games that don't allow you to backtrack should you miss something, one chest mistakenly open (open a chest? you could make that mistake...) and you can no longer receive the game's most powerful spear.

It's been like that in Final Fantasy since VI. There's always some nasty, deeply hidden secret that only the INTRAWEB or a guide could alert you to.

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Originally Posted by Spatula

Also, Final Fantasy versions of "Airports" or Aerodomes, look kinda funny. RIDE THE SHOOPUF, no wai~.

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I will never understand you kids and your FF VIII love. It has one of the most contrived, god awful story lines I've ever seen in my life. Be it movie, book, game or lymeric scrawled in a bathroom stall. The same orphanage? Space? One of them remembers the orphanage but doesn't say anything because LOL? And Squall isn't fucking worthy of being redeemed. He never does a damn thing but mope and cry. And about what? That he's mopey and unfit for command? Abso-fucking-lutely he is. And that never changes. Irvine is a coward and so one-dimensional it hurts, Selphie is a joke and not worth talking about, Quistis is practically tacked into the story, Rinoa is godawful as a love interest, Zell is at least amusing, but that's all he is, a joke character. The charisma of the characters? Jesus fucking christ, people. You must be the people who watch Smallville and call it "brilliant." They have no charisma. They're thoroughly unlikeable. I'd rather watch a Gorilla rape my grandmother than sit through VIII again. The music is top notch, and the battle system has its perks, to be sure... but it is the single worst story I've ever seen in my life. Rinoa is so convenient. And Edea at the orphanage? COME ON. I mean, how can you possibly defend this shit? What possible reason?

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

I feel that I just had to respond to your post, Spatula. I never thought I'd find someone else who had the same feelings for FFVIII that I had. I loved the way the characters interacted with each other. I, for one, never understood why people were claiming Squall was a turd/ass/whathaveyou. I personally thought he was a fairly deep character, and the way he matures throughout the game looked darn believable to me. In my personal opinion, no other FF game (FFXII included) has made me feel deeply connected with the characters. Squall and the gang could have easily existed in our world as normal people. I could identify with them all. Laguna especially seemed like he'd make a great dad to have. Bah, I can't explain these things well : /

Well, I'm probably going off topic since this is supposed to be about FFXII...

Deep? DEEP?!

Why, because he has a horribly lame inner-monologue? Or maybe it's the way he's shallow and acts like a cardboard cut-out through the whole game? You'd get more depth out of a Terry Goodkind novel.

But they didn't HAVE personality, that's the problem. They were so two-dimensional it hurt. Have you never had a real narrative? Have you never seen what an actual characterization can be? Because, Christ, Freelance... VIII is an atrocity. It's the holocaust of video games.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

Lame? His speech during the Garden Battle was great. His words to the mayor of Fisherman's Horizon is inspiring. He may have some faults, but hey, nobody's perfect.

I personally loved his dialogue. He's my favourite VG character.

And you're probably really into sappy, insipid bullshit in the rest of your life, too. If you think VIII had any depth to it, you have no idea what depth really is. His words to the mayor were hackneyed, and they were forced. "Oh he's brave and good now." And you swallowed it. And his speech during the garden battle comes out of nowhere. He's just suddenly a commander in chief. HORSESHIT. Not since a 12 year old kid trains for 2 weeks and suddenly is able to kill an all powerful ice queen have I been so annoyed with fantasy bullshit. Read a goddamn book. A REAL book and get back to me about how fucking great Squall is.

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Originally Posted by Shenlon

Honestly now, your trying to convince people how bad FFVIII is becuase of how much you hated it. I could honestly say how I hate XII but that doesn't make it a bad game to everyone.

No, mate, I was arguing narrative and character development, something you can academically look at. Anyone who's done any reading beyong MySpace and R.L. Stein can spot bullshit when they see it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Spatula

Hantei, DAMN YOU I wanted the Basch cover! I got the faggot Vaan, I don't really like that guy. You'll find out about Basch and Reks later on, soon enough.



I'm guessing by that image that the artbook is detachable, as well as the rip out poster at the end of the book?

Spats, the art book fits into one sleeve, and the guide into the other. The sleeve is a picture of the judges marching. Pretty fucking badass. Also, the poster tears out of the end of the guide.

I wound up with Penelo for a guide. At first I was pretty "meh." But she's actually cute, and I like the cover the more I look at it.

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Here's one for you bunch of humps:

When you're first dodging out into the sands to kill that tomato thing, in the main square before you hit the east gate, there is a Bangaa that asks you to give a package to his friend outside. What the hell does this accomplish? Dudes didn't give me shit.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I've only had a few hours to play, and I've spent them in the sands killing stuff. I'm just past the ceremony where Seymor, I mean, the Consul, gives his speech. But I'm on Lvl. 4 and I've killed 7 cockatrices. WATAP.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

I guess I must be the only person who doesn't think his voice is HORRIBLE. Voice wise and personality wise, he's a lot better than Tidus. I don't mind him at all, and I think the only girly type guy in FF is Irvine, but that's just me. I honestly can't see the whole feminine thing in other FF males. Maybe I'm just abnormal

P.S. Squall's my favourite >_>

Some people say abnormal, most people say functionally retarded.

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Like all Final Fantasy, the secret to this game seems to be simply enjoying level building.

I'm currently 12 hours in

Spoiler:

I just got Basch out of prison, and stepped into the Estersand. I'm on about level 12, and Han Solo, The Rabbit-Elf, and the would-be Robin Hood all have a quickening. I have a complete beastiary so far, including beating all the beasties enough to unlock their second pages. This includes putting away the RazorFin in the sewers. I'm really enjoying murdering the hell out of things. Also, offed the fire horse with one burst of quickening followed by Inferno from the Rabbit-Elf. Cataclysm looks cool, too.

I give it one and a half thumbs up, so far. The story is very Vagrant Story meets Final Fantasy Tactics. I dig.

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Originally Posted by seanne

I would certainly suggest against using two-handed weapons if you're not able to beat this boss. Any increase in damage you might get from using them isn't really worth it considering the drop in Evade (and the fact that Ice Shields come in particularly handy when fighting this guy).



Apart from Teleport Stones and Gyhsal Greens, there are a few items later on in the game that you'll want to refrain from selling. But it'll become pretty obvious. Just as with Weapons and Equipment, if a loot item sells for either 0 or 1 Gil you'll know that you'll want to keep it.

Not counting pebbles, of course.

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

It's awesome that praying mantises look so cool, and for the first time ever, Behemoths are two legged!!

LIES. FUCKING LIES. Final Fantasy VI Behemoths stood on their back legs. BACK TO YOUR PSX ERA BULLSHIT WITH YOU.

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Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

Actually I just remembered that King Behemoths in FFX could stand on their back legs too

I don't remember any Behemoths in FFVI

LURK MOAR.

Behemoths guard relm/shadow upon their re-aquisition in the cave after the world goes kaboom. You can also fight them in a few other areas.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

FFVIII's FMVs are still more memorable for me, and Squall's still my favourite character.

HORSE DEAD. BEATINGS EVERYWHERE.

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Originally Posted by Musharraf

Don't mess with the dino in the desert =D

That's some damn good advice.

Also, be an asshole to Viera in town that ask you for advice concerning their life choices. They'll give you a nice sword.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Lionking-Cyan

And what does it mean?

You'll see when you get there. Try playing the game.

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Originally Posted by Lionking-Cyan

K, hope i will succed in not opening it before christmas *look*.

I hear patience is a really overrated virtue.

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