The Last Remnant Review

Before this spirals way out of control I think Brady is arguing a more subjective "I don't get this" point of view more than a "This game sucks because I think it does" point of view.

I would just add, though, that not everyone enjoys a strategy game that requires months of practice to be any good at. A game like Starcraft or something (first example off the top of my head) with its 50 bajillion units just overwhelms me and confuses the fuck out of me, while Last Remnant's system feels like something I can manage.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that in general while some people can enjoy games with ridiculous amounts of depth, like you seem to, others find that too complicated and prefer what you end up viewing as too simple, Brady.

P.S. I think the biggest barrier to taking the initial post seriously was that whole "I watched someone play it for 6 hours, here is my opinion about how I think no one could possibly want to play it for a long period of time" bit.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

Well you're not getting one, I don't do quote wars.

I understand you're having fun, I'm saying you can have the same kind of fun playing strategy games instead of a crappy RPG. I'm not even fully convinced that you can actually have fun watching guys move around waiting for quicktime events (the guy who was playing didn't have any real problems, he understood what commands would trigger hexes or what have you).

Brady, I take back anything I said about you trying to be objective because you're making it incredibly clear that you're just projecting your own opinions onto the rest of us. You watched someone play the game for 6 hours, and you seem to be incapable of processing that maybe that means he, I don't know, likes the game? I know I'm bored as fuck watching people at school play Magic: the Gathering, but you don't see me telling them that they shouldn't play it because I don't think it's fun, do you?

Are you trying to be a hypocrite, or does it just come naturally?

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Oh, I misread the original post. Apologies.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I realize there's a lot of turn-based or tick-based or pizza-based strategy games out there. The point about the depth turning people off still stands, I think. Doesn't matter what turn system the game uses if there's 5,000 different unit types to memorize.

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Well, go for it! I'd love to be recommended a game that's deep without being overwhelming to new players.

I was speaking idiomatically.