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Originally Posted by Phoenix X
And yeah, that's why I don't think you can accuse God of good or evil. I mean, even if it is possible for God to step in, would you really want a being looking over your shoulder all the time, telling you what to do? As much evil might result from God's inaction, it's really a favor to us that we're free to do as we please. Besides which, for every event that's ever happened, it's impossible to predict what might have happened if things played out differently.
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Your quantum theory proves little. It assumes God is bound within the constraints of time in some strange way which prevents him from action. But then, who said action was ever necessary in the first place? We can assume God had a plan from the very beginning and charted the course of our actions and let multiverse quantum physics take over to carry out his actions. Perhaps all those other actions we can perform at any given moment are the actions of free will, but the action we perform in reality is the path God chose for us. Perhaps God just wanted us to have the illusion of free will even within the context of quantum physics. In short, it's easy to work around your theory.
Secondly, God controlling our actions doesn't necessarily mean we're aware of it. You think that His control would be in the form of telling us what to do, somehow one on one a voice speaks to you? Well what if His control is simply what we percieve as freewill?
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Originally Posted by Phoenix X
The holocaust caused a fucktonne of pain for the world, and we can all agree that it was a great evil. However, it could very well have taught an entire generation the true value of equality and freedom, which might have led to the birth of the civil rights movement.
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Taoism is a bleak outlook on the world. An example of it would be the theory that civil rights movements require the death of millions of Jews to get kick-started. And that for every action of good you do, someone is going perform an act of evil just to counter balance you. What good is such a futile, stagnant view which turns the idea of progress into an imaginary concept?
In any case we both agree the Holocaust was "evil." However, I don't buy your theory on God being passive. As far as I'm concerned, so long as we assume there's a "God" we must also assume He allows acts of great evil to occur.
How ya doing, buddy?