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Right. My point was that because of this fact, it's wrong to invoke it as a supposed "benefit" to blacks or any other culture in society. I think there's still resolution that needs to be made, but that's neither here nor there, so yes, let's drop this. We're sort of in agreement, I can call that progress for now.
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Well I completely missed your point then. As I said before, it's not exactly easy to understand what you are saying as your thoughts are poorly organized.
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Look, don't insult my intelligence by pointing me or anyone else to an entire article. Summarize whatever backs up your point or refutes mine, quote it, do something... but don't toss it in my face. Debate doesn't work that way.
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Why don't you educate yourself and look for the information rather than asking me to throw it at you. It isn't my place to educate you. Quit being stupid.
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Here's the thing, I don't disagree with you on this. It's your line of reasoning for "why" that I disagree with. Yes, gangs are a problem, blacks are not the only race of people who partake in organized crime. Nor are they the only ones to use a source of media to justify their actions. You can say that about anybody who lives a criminal lifestyle. Hackers use fictional characters like Radical Edward as a mascot. Italian Mafiosos love the Godfather films and Goodfellas. That said, media isn't the problem, the very idea of blaming the media takes the blame, the responsibility off of the shoulders of people who break the law and places it solely on the people who merely tell stories about it.
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Yes, I agree; however, I think that it is quite evident that there is a crisis among the black community. It is more prevalent than other cultures. Also, I think it's quite ironic how you bash me earlier for making a comparison between ethnic groups, yet you are doing the same thing here. Well done.
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Which group of people are breaking the law, Tesla? "The Devil made me do it" is not an excuse, so why should "dem rap lyrics made me do it" be different?
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Did I say the rap music was the exact cause? No, I only said it contributes to the problem. LEARN TO READ!
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Again, my point isn't that "blacks are not the majority right now", I don't care if they are or aren't. Nor is it, "blacks live in poverty, that sucks and you should feel it sucks too." I'm saying your reasoning is flawed. That there's a reason that so many blacks turn to drugs and crime as a way to live.
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Of course there is a reason. Tell me how my reasoning is flawed. I see nothing wrong with my reasoning. You are misinterpreting everything I say, and I suggest you slow down and read. I never said rap was the only reason. I said it is a possibility that it contributes to the problem, considering that's what gangsta rap music is all about, and it's such an issue in the black community. To blame everything exclusively on rap music would be idiocy. Again, quit putting words in my mouth.
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The "Civil Rights" era ended, I'd say, in the 80s. That isn't 200-400 years ago. Blacks have just begun to see themselves in society as more than just second class citizens. As they assert themselves in these positions, they have to face old prejudices, new prejudices, social stigma... a lot of things that outline the problems that have lingered from years of being poorly educated and held down by American society.
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And other races don't? That's the point I was trying to make by relating them to Native Americans. By your logic, women should be equally compensated for dealing with the same "old prejudices" which have existed for thousands of years. Quit grasping for straws.
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No, Tesla. Let me blunt: I think you're a racist in denial. Something in me feels that you either hear that often, or not often enough. I don't even like saying it. I think you have some underlying issues with blacks that have broken the law that puts you in an outrage and prevents you from distinguishing between an individual and the crimes they commit and a group of people who shouldn't all be associated with wrong doing just because "OMG, majority."
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Ah, the old bigot retort. If I am a racist, does that make Bill Cosby a racist? You know nothing about me so don't even go there. There is an issue in the black community today, according to the statistics I have presented. You are in denial and do a good job at shunning the truth. I never said murder rates were high only because of blacks. Show me where I said that, you will be unsuccessful. Just because my first few posts on the subject were ill-explained isn't an excuse to tell me that I am a racist. I do not believe blacks are solely to blame for the high murder rates; however, I do believe they are a contributing factor.
The statistics cannot be ignored, quit being a coward and admit it.
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No, no, no. Where are the statistics based on rap, the media? Typically, anything that either glorifies or empathizes with a criminal lifestyle has people who look up to something in the media to justify what they do. You haven't presented any statistics regarding blacks and rap and "percentage of people who break the law that listen to rap music." And even if you did, you'll NEVER win a conclusive argument with that approach, because even scholars and psychiatrists aren't entirely sure how much affect the media has on antisocial behavior.
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Which is precisely why I said it may be a contributing factor and it is concerning. I said, "maybe", keyword there. Again, learn to read. As I have said before, I am not the only person who believes this way, and I linked you to an article where Bill Cosby feels the same way.
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A comparison that had no merit whatsoever and explained nothing.
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Obviously, you just suck at interpreting what I say.
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