Opus Dei

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Originally Posted by ionuk tomb

Two things. If she was actually clever, she wouldn't be a Christian. "She might be influenceable"?. Once again...if she's 17 and still believes in imaginary people in the sky, SHE'S VERY GULLIBLE! Don't just keep her from joining a cult, undo the brainwashing she had since she was a kid!

I'm pretty much with ionuk here. I'm not questioning the realism of God, supernatural powers, reincarnation, or even a way to change your fate/destiny by the level of fortune you can aquire from one super entity. But with issues such as religion(s), beliefs, and faith, I do question what was the original purpose of introducing such ideals way back then? Back when this stuff never existed. Yes, there was a time when religion wasn't something known or invented.

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If your friend is so easily influenced, then would it be possible still to lure her to the dark side? I sense a strong force amidst us. I must have this power.

Seriously, if your friend is so easily influenced, then this Opus Dei thing may not be a wise choice to do. First of all, how much does she know about the organization? Just "Oh, they're well known, so that obviously means they're reputable?" Or, "Well, everyone else is doing it?"

Being well known can be good or bad, as you know. You can be well known as a famous criminal, or well known as a good sumaritan.

Really now, if I were to meet her and display a colorfully colored cigarette, think she would smoke it when I say,

"It isn't narcotic, it's actually revolutionarily new. This product simulates the activity of a regular cigarette smoker, but in fact, you are simply insulting their "good intentions" to think smoking is at all a good thing. You would be supporting the cause to stop smoking. People will receive this ploy as, 'Hey, I'm smoking a cigarette, but it really isn't and you don't know that. I'm deceiving you and you don't even know it. You should feel insulted, but too bad you won't be able to. Hah!' "

[Once other smokers realize you aren't getting blackened lungs, wheezing problems, and seriously yellow'd teeth, they'll come-to and realize that smoking cigarettes allows people like you to make fun of them in this fashion. This will make them stop instinctively since they really don't like being insulted.]

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But in truth, she will simply be deceived by me and become intoxicated as well as addicted. What could Opus Dei do in my position, if I were to meet her and offer this grand idea/deal?

I think you and your friend should research more about Opus Dei. News, history, policies/rules, events, etc. Perhaps even attend a 'supposedly' major eveny (as claimed by them) and see how active or communitive it is.

Edit: Not to mention, if her family is participating, then it's likely no matter what we do or say, she'll end up joining anyway. Family is the ultimatum in influence.

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You don't need world histroy, or anything else, to know that time had been actively been allowing things to happen before you yourself was born. So, based upon that fact, religion must also have had some kind of influencial origin. Such as, some doof hallucinating on heroin or something back then. (Think about it, Christianity must of been created from the world's first drug users.) People of those times didn't know what drugs were. They didn't know what heroin is or what it can do. But they must of ate some of it seeing as it's a plant, similar to cabbage by the fact it's edible. Poisonous? Who'd of ever considered that concept if they're hungry for food. "Ahh, what a plesant breeze. Yet, I hunger for something filling. Aha! What may that be over there? My eye spots something tasty looking. No spectators or officials to blunder my quest, advance I say, advance!"

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