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nanaman
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Old Apr 12, 2008, 07:57 AM Local time: Apr 12, 2008, 02:57 PM 2 #1 of 30
With all due respect Deni, you can't expect all people to listen when you're sounding like you do (using foul language and coming off as offensive). I know what you're trying to say is indeed true in a way, but there are much better ways to phrase what you were going to say, like some people already have in this thread. Most people just don't catch onto "slap in your face" talk if you know what I mean, and I think there's no reason to get all worked up by it if they don't.

From my experience, when you want to help, get a point across or give criticism, you have to do it with respect and without looking down on the other person for any of their miscomings. "Attacking" on the other part rarely gets the point across, mostly it will only get them on their defensive, thus they'll probably ignore whatever you have to say. It's as simple as this, if you give respect, you'll get it in return.

I've got a question for you, I've seen you many times in these kind of threads, and I'm wondering, why do you come to write the same thing over and over again? Do you really want to help or are you just trying to win an argument (e.g. show that "your way" is right)? I just see you get irritated at all these "losers" as you say, and try to get into conflict with them. Why even bother, if you dislike "losers" like it seems you do?

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Apr 13, 2008, 08:54 AM Local time: Apr 13, 2008, 03:54 PM 1 #2 of 30
What am I trying to do? I'd think that was obvious. I was asking you if you'd ever been diagnosed as manic or bi-polar, because you seem to show a lot of the signs of it. Extreme depression followed by immense highs and sudden immensely sunshiney outlook on life. You seem to get the roller coaster, and I was wondering if you'd been given a proper ticket for it yet.
Oh boy Deni... I'm wondering if you'd ever been diagnosed as a pretentious prick, because you seem to show a lot of the signs of it.

Deni, why do I see you give of a diagnosis of his mental health here? You're coming off as a hypocrite, as I'm pretty sure that I've seen you write somewhere here on the forum that we as gamers shouldn't be giving off diagnosis as we're not professionals. And here I see you give off a slight diagnosis based on the tone of forum posts alone. But really you don't have to answer that, because yeah, it was pretty obvious, your "question" was merely meant as an insult, with tongue in cheek. Again, there are thousands of much better ways of asking if he's searched professional help in this matter, but you just had to choose an offensive one. You aren't fooling anyone with your thinly veiled insults, Mr. Denicalis.

Anyways, my best advice for you SpaceMonk, is to find confidence. I feel that sometimes, all we need in life is a goal, something to achieve. And achievement brings confidence in your own abilities. Challenge yourself every day, make yourself do things that you'd never done before. It doesn't matter how small the achievements are, because before you know it, you've come a long way.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Apr 14, 2008, 06:15 AM Local time: Apr 14, 2008, 01:15 PM #3 of 30
Wow, it stinks like bread in here. All because a kid complained that he feels hopeless and someone didn't give him a shoulder to cry on? Hell, he even gave you the olive branch of "maybe you have legitimate problems" but that's still not good enough.

entirely true but doesn't explain why you're on the offensive over here. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of depressed people are feeling attacked and staging their last stand against the Tyranny of the Ego. I don't think that's going to help anyone, to be honest. Close your legs.
I admit, I got on the defensive because I was getting kind of irritated on what Deni said. Having had some problems with depression myself I know how it feels to be there. I just don't see the need to pick down on people searching for help, because it really doesn't help. The thing is, I'm not encouraging the half-assed sugar coated "criticisms" some people tend to give like (and I'm sure this is the kind that Deni doesn't like), the kind that are avoiding the issue at hand, and only prolonging the problem period. However, there ARE ways to give good and legit criticism without sounding like a total arse, and that is the kind that really helps when in depression. Things that'll give you motivation to change yourself are great, giving tips on how to approach the problem is great, telling someone to "grow the fuck up" is not that great cause it really doesn't tell you anything. So, that's what I really wanted to say I guess.

How ya doing, buddy?
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