[General Discussion] "Rap Isn't Music"

Well, there are some rap artists that I could consider being music, I can't say I'm very knowledgeable about the genre, but I think Outkast has some pretty catchy songs. And there are some japanese hip-hop bands that are pretty funky too. Then we have Rage against the machine, but I guess in a sense that is rap metal. And yeah there are some Swedish rap artists that are kinda good. I could have missed someone else cause I'm just not that very fond of the genre.

But other than that, I'd say most of the rap I've heard, especially modern rap, is very much indeed crap. In many cases it's just some crappy beat that anyone could create with a good computer program, a product enveloped in a casing of sex, drugs, gangsta life and overall bad lyrics/performance. It's just about the money nowadays, as it is with a lot of mainstream music. And I totally despise that. Of course, there are always exceptions, as I could totally respect many of the earlier rappers as it wasn't just about money and putting up some gangsta image.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that rap is "black music". Even though black rap artists may be more common, rap is rap. In the beginning jazz and blues was black music. Nowadays you can see both black and white artists in the genres.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well sorry then for being a bit off topic

But yeah, I guess what you say is true to an extent. I mean, I guess a lot of people really think this way, even though they don't know about it themselves. I guess this is most apparent among mainstream music likers, where it's a lot about the image artist/bands have and not so much about the music itself because in many cases they all sound the same. I find that the more you go into the more "musical" genres it doesn't matter anymore because it's about the music, while in mainstream music it's in many cases the image the artists create that people go after. So I guess a white racist wouldn't listen to rap because it's "nigga music" like many people would say. So I'd say that those who think this way surely are holding back artists products because of their own racist perspective on things. I think it's stupid, but people can be blind to this matter if they want to, they're the ones losing out on it after all.

In many cases I think some people don't like rap or heavy metal because some people generally say it's crap and automatically they think the same even though they haven't given it a chance themselves. Common human behavior.

There's nowhere I can't reach.