[Movie] Heroes

Bout the comic being non-future like:

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The comic is indeed from the future when hiro traveled forward in time, but when he went back (after the nuke hit) he brought the comic with him. I think he had it in his coat or a hold of it at the time or something, maybe in his back pocket. He did bring it back with him though.

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon

Everyone who thinks Claire's (adoptive) father is a rebellious good-guy seems to be overlooking the fact that he's been working with the guy who can erase peoples' memories. There's no beneficial motivation that I can think of which would necessitate this. In fact, Parkman, when asked where he was the previous day, couldn't recall.

If Mr. Bennett were independently working for good, and working to stop Syler, then it doesn't make much sense for him to have Parkman's memory of the Syler erased. After all, wouldn't it be smarter for the heroes to know what they're up against?

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That maybe true, but at the same time, why wouldn't he have already erased Claire's memory/handed her over to Syler already? Also, he has seen the map of where Dr. Suresh has pinpointed the heroes, but he seems to have an uncanny ability to know who they are, and what they can do...maybe he has some insight to the future, and knows who might end up helping Syler in the end, hence the mind wipe to prevent that from happening.

Concering the pictures Peter put up "like a comic book"

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Didn't it look lilke, in one of the frames, that Ando was shot, or something? He was falling back and blood, or at least I assume, was over the top of the canvas.

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon

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On an unrelated note, executive producer, Tim Kring, in an interview, referred to Sylar as "he". So, smart money's on Mr. Bennet at this point.

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It must be the optimist in me, but I honestly believe Mr. Bennet could not possibly be Sylar in any way, shape, or form for various reasons.

1. Sylar seems to have one agenda on his mind: Absorbing the power of the heroes he comes in contact with, meaning that as soon as Mr. Bennet found out about Claire, Matt, and any other hero, he would have wasted no time in absorbing their powers.

2. In capturing Nathan, Mr. Bennet did not seem to want to harm him an any way. The gun, which with Sylar's powers would serve little to no purpose in having one, was probably used to make Nathan cooperate with whatever they had planned for him. I mean, Nathan is trying to deny his own power, so what good would trying to talk to him, saying that he's an important person in a bigger plan, when he doesn't want the power himself it seems?

3. When Eden told Bennet that Hiro told Peter "Save the cheerleader" she didn't tell him that he also said "save the world" so the way he reacted seemed to be either he knew Sylar would come after her -as a concerned parent- or he could have thought that they were going to try and save her from him...though I don't know why.

4. As for that gun showing up everywhere, well, perhaps it was all in self defense against Sylar. Maybe when Issac was killed in the future, Mr. Bennet or Eden could have tried shooting him, but failed in the attempt. That's an extreme guess though.

5. This ties in with number one...but why erase people's memories when you could just take their brain like Sylar does?

6. Once again, ties in with number two. Unless Matt IS a character in the future, then Mr. Bennet could have just flown after Nathan when he took off.

So there are a lot of reasons why Bennet could, and could not be Sylar. Though I kind of think Sylar is someone that tends to want to work alone, so why would he have 'agents' and a hero that can wipe a person's memory? Doesn't add up for Bennet to be Sylar IMO.

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Originally Posted by speculative

You know, they keep talking about what a "hero" is. Especially with Hiro, but last time with Micah talking to his dad as well.

I think they are too involved in developing the story, and there are too many things going on right now, for them to actually develop this into a true "theme" however, and that's too bad. The show is great and I really enjoy it, but one of the things that made Spider-man so great was the conflict in the character between wanting to be a hero and wanting to be a normal person.

I'm not saying they're not touching on this, but they're only skimming the surface. I would like to see this theme development in-depth...

I think you are missing the point of the show, somewhat.

This show really isn't about how people are turning into heroes, it's dealing with how people act and how others act when someone evolves to the next level so to speak.

It's showing how different people react to receiving supernatural gifts and how they use them in their lives. Hiro watches waaaay too much anime and plays too many video games, so he has his mindset that saving people and saving the world is the right thing to do with his powers

Niki allows her alter to take over to protect her son, nothing else it seems.

Everyone in this show is dealing with their newfound abilities in a different way, some think that it's cool, others think it's the next step, while the rest see themselves as perhaps some freakshow...and that's what the show's theme is revolving around, how people deal with their gifts.

At least that's what I think, I could be completely wrong :P

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From the fact Peter is with Claire could mean that the future was already being changed from Issac's paintings. Though, even though Peter is with Claire in the preview, that doesn't mean Sylar just didn't toss him away from Claire to have her all to himself, but that is just speculation.

Concerning Hiro and the waitress. Somehow I don't know what impact this will have with Sylar being in Odessa, but it is clear that it seems Sylar isn't just killing people with powers just for the hell of it even though it may seem to be that way. I'm sure that in someway he's absorbing everyone's power that he kills, that could be what his main ability was, and that's why he's going to be going after Claire.

In this episode it shows that he has the ability to shadow himself (har har) but seriously, the way he managed to get into the backroom and kill the waitress without anyone seeing him leads me to believe that either he has some sort of super speed or teleportation, cause there was a sound in the backroom before he killed her.

Either way, it'll be interesting to see how this will turn out with Hiro and the waitress, whether he saves her or prevents the inevitable. One thing is for sure, he's bound to have a huge impact in next weeks episode, he'll probably end up saving them all I think, or aiding Peter by giving him the one up on Sylar.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

I think the run-in with Sylar was underwhelming, honestly. For a man who can mentally fling debris like scrap paper in the wind, he didn't put up much of an offense. It was also strange the way he took his time opening the skull of the one cheerleader, whereas he was able to cleave the waitress's skull open in an instant.

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Everytime we see Sylar, he never just outright attacks, he studies his victim first, like in the diner.

He has to make sure he's killing someone that has a power, in that cheerleader's case, he had to make sure she could regenerate, hence the slow cutting of her head.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by The Furious One

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But he only stopped when he noticed the when claire got up, but that does make sense, they were the only ones in the room.
When Peter came, what the hell did Sylar chuck at him, looked really lame should of hurled benches and lockers.

We still don't know what sylar wanted with that little girl the cop saved!?!?

Technically it was locker doors he hurled at him >.>

For all we know, maybe Sylar locked the little girl up in that room just to lure out Matt.

Suresh found everyone, and maybe Sylar has a list of those people, it'd make sense in the long run.

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Originally Posted by The Furious One

Could peter be like Rogue in Xmen, because Sylar should of wooped his ass, not been thrown off the building like that. Also his brother couldnt carry him when he flew, but when Claires dad tried to catch him he flew at super sonic speed. If he can fly at that speed then he must be able to carry someone!??!

Does seem to apply to Claire or the painter guy, but their powers they don't have to be conscious decision

Who knows, maybe that could be the case, but I think, honestly, Sylar was going to just rip Peter to shreds, given the fact he didn't know Peter had any powers, like that little girl's mother who was pinned to the side of the dining room. But when he was right next to Peter, Peter could have just said fuck it, and tried throwing Sylar off the roof out of desperation too.

As for Nathan, maybe he wasn't that adept at flying yet.

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Originally Posted by The Furious One

Possible but the super sonic speed maybe out of fear (but the way he crouched and jumped seemed like he knew what he was doing) the dodgy landing that Hero witness would also suggest that he hasnt fully mastered it yet.

I'm not too sure fear would suggest it. See the only real timeline heroes has is that six months ago shit happened. When the show began we could take it as every episode happened a few days apart, or the next day, we don't know. Given that, perhaps on his down time Nathan decided that he'd practice his flying if he ever needed it, and also, in the comic it shows that he carried someone out a window with his flying, so maybe he's been performing random acts of heroism as well, that'd explain how he got so fast, with practice.

The dodgy landing, I think, would mean that that was his first time trying to fly as fast as he could.

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Interesting episode to say the least. It did a good job tying things in, but even though it explained a lot of things, I can't help but feel that it was just so that it showed what Hiro did six months ago.

The only thing that I was left wondering about was the whole story about Nikki and Jessica, they never really explained squat on that.

Also, LOOOOOL at Nathan's first flight

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btw: who would have thought that you know who woulda been so geeky lookin?

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You know, Hiro seems to be the true underdog of this show. Somewhere in the show everyone has used their powers for something useful, but no matter what he does, he always seems to end up doubting himself in the end. Sure he saved that little girl, and pulled those guys away from the explosion, but he's got to get some break, get what he wants at some point, right?

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Originally Posted by SILBER-5

Also, what if the Hiro that dies is just Isaac dieing like future him did? Though I guess if Sylar is captured that's not possible..

It's entirely possible, actually.

Remember, as far as everyone surrounding Issac, Claire, Peter and Hiro is concerned they believe they have 'saved' the cheerleader.

What isn't explained, however, is the fact that all of Issac's paintings have come true, nothing has changed. So I believe that everything in future!Hiro's world, happened so far the same in the present, and they have misinterpretted everything.

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I can't really see why there is so much hate for Nathan, everyone thinks that he's a bad guy and he really hasn't shown anything yet about being that way except that he boned another woman while he was married, and he only seems to care about winning an election.

For all we know, he wants to win the election to better take care of his family, and I say that because there really isn't much room for him to be politically corrupt in the least, and if anything, I think he's just trying to fuck Linderman over, given the last episode about taking him down.

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Originally Posted by ramoth

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Wrong! The picture of Claire in the stadium, alone, was different. They had the exact shot that was in the painting, but Peter was also in it. I'm not sure how this fits in, given that he also painted a picture of Peter dying, and why would Peter be there?

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Wrong! The picture of Claire alone in the stadium was still coming true. Remember, Peter told Claire to run, and he stood there looking at Sylar for a few moments, long enough to get locker doors thrown at him.

That shadow in the painting when she fell on the steps, that was Peter's shadow coming out the door I'll bet. I'll have to review the episode though.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

everyone knows Sylar's ultimate power is to make a semi-shadow around his form so that he looks mysterious and threatening to anyone that looks at him.

"Hey, need some coff--Holy shit!!! MYSTERIOUS AURA"

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Originally Posted by Drex

It is also of note that Sylar went after Jackie, since if he were to specifically seek Claire out, it would be off of Saresh's (Suresh? can't remember) information, which wasn't wrong before. That implies that if he haphazardly showed up there, Eden did in fact succeed in getting Claire's name off the list.

I don't really remember anyone mentioning any names about the person who saved the firefighter, it was all "a local girl" if I'm correct, but I'm not sure.

Or another thing, which is probably untrue but oddly ties in, her dad could have had Jackie's name put on the list instead. Of course, he knew nothing about Sylar at the time, but maybe he just needed some other scapegoat, I'm not sure.

Though, what I don't understand is if he didn't want Saresh in on what he already knew (about the powers) why didn't he just have Eden wipe her complete memory?

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That preview just made me want to see this next episode ten fold.

Everything is really starting to come together at this point, every hero has either met up with the others, or is about to in this episode, save Nikki, D.L. and Micha.

It should be interesting to see how the cliffhanger of this episode is going to be, because all mid season finale's have a cliffhanger of course. I personally am hoping Nathan turns around here soon because while the whole "I know I have powers, but I'm denying it to the fullest extent" is a alright character trait, it is becoming tedious I think.

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Originally Posted by Wai

To the Niki/Jessica part. Someone mentioned that Niki can channel Jessica's soul or something. But about her superhuman strenght? Has Niki two kind of powers?
Cant it be that its Jessica who can transfer to another body when the current "container" dies? Thats Jessica's power. And about the superhuman strenght, that can rip apart human bodies, I believe its Niki's power.
It could be a possibility since, most of the heroes have only one kind of power ,not two. Not counting Sylar as he "steals" others' powers

That's a possible theory, but I'm pretty sure by now if Nikki had supernatural strength on her own, she would have discovered it accidently, like hauling those bodies around to dig would have been less stressful, or something to that extent.

I'm not sure who is channeling who here, but it is common lore that spirits tend to be a lot stronger than their human counterparts, possessing a person wise so maybe the super strength comes from the fact Nikki keeps being possessed by a ghost, but I don't know.

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It's pretty simple to figure out as to why Sylar regained his powers in that room, in fact, I can't believe Bennet didn't prevent something llike this from happening.

He knows how things work, simple as that, he figured out, somehow, how the room itself worked and figured out a way to get past it, at least that's the only way I can think of on how he got his powers back.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

You know, everyone is pegging Bennet as a bad guy, and I don't really understand why. I mean, there are a lot of things that point to that, really, but also you have to understand that his job is of complete secrecy.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he's working for the government, but obviously he's working for someone because of the fact he didn't have Sylar killed on the spot. The threats to Claire obviously effected him, you could see he wanted Sylar dead, but the big boss wants Sylar alive, Bennet has to comply. He does have a family to support after all.

As for the Haitian wiping his wife's memory all the time, it's probably just to protect her. Hell, Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black explained it well enough, people take comfort in not knowing anything :P

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I'm pretty sure Linderman is the boss, he seems to be connected to most of the Heroes in some way or another.

Somehow I doubt Primatech Paper is even a company, if it is though, they sure are doing a hell of a lot more than making paper plates :P

I was speaking idiomatically.

Anything after T2 was a bad idea.

Anyways, E! reported on the fact Nathan was the only one walking towards Peter in that dream sequence, so I guess that must have a huge impact on one of the upcoming episodes.

So, am I the only one still convinced that Nathan will continue to be a good guy, and that Mr. Bennet isn't evil at all, just taking orders from a higher up? I mean he seems to have a vigilante approach to people who are assholes from the latest webcomic about reporting Eden's death to her father, so I think that's what his whole deal is...I think he just punishes assholes in a very mean way, that's the only thing that I could see making him bad but hey, you'd be on edge if a co-worker that was close to you was killed, right?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I don't think Peter can ever be evil, given his past and his ungodly obsession with saving the world. I think he even beats Hiro on that one.

I agree with your Nathan perspective Lene, though, I have the feeling the more and more he begins to accept what he is, and what he can do for the world, he'll change on the inside as well.

The whole "peter flying away" thing, it seems way too predictable for this show, you know. I bet there is going to be some other twist involved because face it, if Peter litterally explodes, he won't be in the future, or have a scar. Whatever it is, however, its' going to have a huge impact on the show and maybe explain what Peter can do more in depth.

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Originally Posted by Lene

I don't think that's Peter's real motivation. I don't think he wants to save the world, so much as wanting to be someone important. Someone greater than he was when the show started. Hiro on the other hand seems to be more pure and selfless.

Peter is all about this "This is my destiny, I was meant for something greater than what I am now, blah blah blah." Guess who else was saying the same thing not too long ago?

Sylar.

Meh, while turning Peter into the main villian would be a pretty cool twist, hasnt' been done much in tv or movies, I just don't think it would fit the character too well.

Peter didn't feel this way until the powers started to form. Sylar, on the other hand, strove to be greater, to not be dull for a long time before Suresh came to him. I think Peter has this "comic book" approach to him, knowing that he's been given these powers for a reason, and wants to change the world for the better, wheras Sylar only wants it for himself.

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Wait...Zach was gay? We are talking about Claire's friend right? I always thought he had the hots for her from day one...

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