Why not legalize prostitution?

Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

No. I do think that giving prostitutes other opportunities would drastically decrease the number of prostitutes because prostitution is (probably) tough, gruesome, degrading work. Maybe it is pure glamor though.

Seriously, as Sass said above about wal-mart, I OUTLINED two pages back of my experiences at that place, what was expected of me, and how I was thanked for it when I wanted to move up in the company to make a measily 9 DOLLARS A FUCKING HOUR.

The work was tough, TVs fell on people's heads because the management decided "OH HAY THIS WILL WORK BETTER IF THE 42 INCH PLASMA'S ARE PUT UP ON THE HIGHEST BACK ROOM SHELVING"

Cleaning up kid vomit, cleaning up diaharea because someone coudnl't make it to the bathroom in time, and on the rare occassion having to report to managagement that there is a transvestite walking around the clothing department in a bra and panties is gruesome work.

Degrading? How about you have some 400lb fat peice of shit calling you nothing but a worthless, good for nothing cock sucker because you don't have a movie in he wants to see and you can't pop him in his fucking jaw like he deserves? Go fuck yourself Tambur. Go fuck yourself with a rusty god damn saw blade.

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Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

So, I agree with you. But I will say it again: my only fear is that in rural areas prostitution will become the ONLY means of living for certain women. That's my only problem; but other than that legalize it all you want.

Okay, so let me get this straight. You want to provide more job opportunities for women, prostitution being at the bottom of that list because it is 'icky' and 'morally wrong' (which is a bunch of shit.). Which in theory paints you as a human being, but when you say things like this above, you completely paint yourself as a monster who doesn't give two shits about people so long as you get your way.

Let me explain. From MY viewpoint, it seems that this paragraph above states that you would rather see a woman and perhaps even her children starve to death, instead of seeing them become a prostitute in a safe, workable environment.

So...fucking...WHAT if it becomes the ONLY means of living for certain women? Would you rather see them...not living as opposed to living? Would you rather see them homeless instead of trying to make a living? That's what it sounds like to me.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

And we've said it a million times back, you're an asshole for thinking that prostitution is the only profession in this world that would force people into doing that sort of job based on economic conditions. The point is, if prostitution was legalized, I highly, HIGHLY doubt the 'poor people' (which, I assume you want to protect SO MUCH) will end up with a gun to their head, being told that if they don't fuck for money, they will get shot.

I don't now what magical part of the world you live in, but people are exploited every day in legitimate jobs around the world. The fact of the matter is, just because you think sex is sacred and personal, doesn't give you the right to tell people what they can and can not do with their bodies. Using that logic, I could tell you that eating Bacon Cheeseburger Hamburger Helper is a spiritual experience that only I can feel, so the government should outlaw anyone else eating it but me.

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Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

Whether or not you want to be able to walk into a building and decide you want to fuck some asian or black woman up the ass if your own god damn problem.

But Tamburlaine, this entire time you've been speaking in this thread is about how to keep women from making choices, and making sure they don't have to deal with their OWN GOD DAMN PROBLEMS.

It's a woman's own god damn problem if she wants to sell said ass to some guy. The problem is, you seem to be on some 'I am better than art thou' kick and would rather see women starve just so they don't have to spread their legs.

Prostitution doesn't have to be a last resort for women you fuck nut and at least if it was legal, they'd be a lot safer IF they made that choice to work that way.

What the fuck are you not understanding about this?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'm going to have some fun with this.

Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

1) Let's get this straight: allowing women to become prostitutes is fine. But trying to protect them from being sexually exploited degrades them. Right.

Allowing women to become prostitutes is fine. But you're not trying to protect them, you're trying to control them. Sugar coat it all you want, but if you think legalizing prostitution would degrade them EVEN MORE and exploit them is childish and stupid.

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2) I'd like a way that is less degrading. I know some people here don't think it is degrading, but I don't think that is how the vast majority of the country feels.

Yes, by telling us that only ghetto women, low class women, and those that aren't well off are the ONLY people in this world that will 'resort', as you put it, isn't degrading enough already? Go fuck yourself.

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3) If our government can spend a trillion dollars on the Iraq war, 3 trillion bailing out banks, and another trillion in medicare, then why can it not give better opportunities to these women? Now, once those opportunities are in place, the women can become prostitutes and do whatever they want. I just think that there wouldn't be as many.

'these women'. You see here...this is what makes you out to be an asshole in all of our eyes. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MINORITY GROUP OF WOMEN. We are talking about a profession choice being legalized so that all walks of life can CHOOSE whether or not they want to work in it in a safer environment with rules and regulations.

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4) Look, I have already said that I want prostitution to be legal. I well conceive of some people who even enjoy being prostitutes, although I think that that is probably a minority.

The only life you see is the ones of prostitutes that are forced to work the streets. Do you know how much coin a woman can bring in if she didn't have to answer to a pimp? A smart, attractive woman could make a KILLING even if she had a college degree. What you think doesn't matter in this, sadly, because ultimately you're not the one who gets to decide what a woman does with her body, or a man for that matter.

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When prostitution is legalized, it would be good if efforts were put in place to give women in urban and rural areas opportunities other than prostitution. I do have a problem with it becoming the profession that impoverished people default into. A young girl or boy in a rural area may only have prostitution as viable work in order to survive. That seems to be exploitative to a cruel degree.

Again, you look like nothing but an asshole when you say this. Why in the FUCK do you think people will 'default' into it? And again, legalized prostitution would be better to KEEP minors out of it. For your last two sentences, again, you never EVER fuck answer me on this...but you're telling me right there that it would be crueler for someone to make money by selling their body, instead of sitting there having no means to survive.

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5) Nothing. I have said that I am perfectly fine with legal prostitution, as long is it is not the profession people default into.

6) So, I agree with you. But I will say it again: my only fear is that in rural areas prostitution will become the ONLY means of living for certain women. That's my only problem; but other than that legalize it all you want.

7) I've said it a million times now: I am perfectly fine with legalized prostitution, as long as no people are forced into it by economic conditions, because that is exploitation.

See above, and you fucking DOUCHEBAG. Everyone is fucking exploited in everything they fucking do. You want to not be exploited? Own a fucking business yourself, but be warned, in some way shape or form you're bound to get exploited there as well.

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8) I think that legalizing prostitution can help lift some people out of poverty as well as solve some of the other problems you guys have brought up. On the other hand, I see this poverty as being inflicted from extra-personal forces, and I don't think prostitution is the solution every time. With the $50,000 a person our GDP offers, no one needs to be entering prostitution unless they truly desire it.

And what do you not seem to understand when we say that legalizing prostitution is NOT going to force women into going into that job profession, whether or not they are poverty stricken? People have the fundamental right to CHOOSE what they want to do...they ALWAYS have a choice. Just because prostitution would be legal, doesn't mean that all of the 'nappy headed bitches' you seek to protect from poverty stricken areas will flock to them. Grow up.

And it seems we have managed to cause a mental breakdown in Tam...Mission Accomplished?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?