Does responsibility curve outwardly in favor of the less fortunate?

What one person/couple does is their business. You can not control how a person reproduces, as it's none of your goddamn business. Whether they're poor or rich, intelligent or stupid - whatever - it's none of your business.

Personally, I chose to wait until I am mentally able to cope with a child. I don't think ANYONE is ever "ready" to have a kid, either financially or mentally. I've thought long and hard about it.

Finance should take a role in having a kid, but it shouldn't be the main indicator of when you're ready to pop one out. How much money is ever "enough" for your child?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Maico

Would you apply that to incestous couples too?

Who the hell am I to say that incestuous couples can't have kids? I don't think it's right, but as Deni graciously put it, what I think is right isn't always right for others. (That's not to say I condone incest.)

Personal decisions.

What I find interesting is that a LOT of poor folks who haven't been able to survive can make ends meet for their kids.

Who the hell is to say that poor folks can't have kids? That's ridiculously wrong. Some of the poor kids in history have grown up to be incredible people - there are a lot of things to be learned through poverty. Sure, many of them get the shit end of the stick - but the same happens with affluent people, too. Ain't no denyin'.

Not everyone is born rich or have privileges.

Which leads me to another thought, which has always torn me: should people who don't use birth control and can't care for their kids be allowed to reproduce over and over again?

(I mention this because one of my best friends ended up adopting her sister's son because the sister kept popping out kids and was abusing them. The state of Maryland had the sister's tubes tied - is this right or is this wrong)

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Maico

I think the state was right to tie up that uncaring horn dog. If she doesn't want to pay, then she shouldn't play! Kids aren't like...candy? (Mmm, candy). I don't know a good blip to put in there, but you don't just make kids like a Ford rolling off the factory line...or something. If someone has a better analogy, feel free to trump that lame ass one I just tried to do. Yea...

I agree that the woman is lacking in her capacity to determine when a good time is to STOP FUCKING.

But at the same time, there must be another way to resolve the problem then sewing her fallopian tubes shut. (Or whatever the fuck they do. I guess whatever procedure is cheapest to the state har har)

I mean, I am a little alarmed that this is permitted. No authority should have the right to physically fuck with someone's body.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Maico

Maybe they could've thrown her in a jail/prison instead for child abuse and neglect?

The state still ends up with kids in the foster care system and the woman can still pop more out in the end, though. (Just playing Devil's Advocate. I'm really torn on the issue)

This is a case of "mentally incapable" of caring for kids, though.

There should be no "financially capable," since thats insanely difficult to gauge. (Unless of course there's some abuse going on due to lack of funds... which is still arguable)

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

Goddamnit... You're having THIS fucking argument again in a DIFFERENT thread? You gotta be fucking kidding me.

You muppets have exactly ONE PAGE to prove that this can yield positive discussion or I'll merge it with the "wetback saved a life but FUCK THAT SPIC FOR PUNCHING OUT FIFTY KIDS" thread since it's pretty much the exact same thing that's being discussed here anyway.

Dude, shouldn't you be worried about the other thread being on topic more than this thread having it's own, spin-off topic??

I think there is a good discussion going on - potential, anyways. Better than people shouting at each other about how wrong and bad the other people are.

It's a completely valid topic, wtf ;_;

I was speaking idiomatically.