[Movie] LOST

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

Seconded.

I think the writers just don't know what the hell to do with these characters anymore, so it's all a muddled mess.

Next week looks like crap, too.

preview:

Just a long boring episode where the Others do tortures on Sawyer. Fun.

O god, I know, right?

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Others: "DO YOU LOVE HIM?"
Kate: "DONT HURT HIM PLEASE!"
Others: "DO YOU LOVE HIM?"
Kate: "O WHAT THE HELL PLEASE?"
Others: "DO YOU LOVE HIM?"
KATE: "YEA, ALRIGHT, FINE, WHATEVER."

You know, I am all about the romance between Kate and Sawyer, but SERIOUSLY. I am getting so sick of the gratuitous saccharine there, too. Stop slopping it all over your shitty episodes which are literally 1/4 commercials.

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Add in the fact that after the next 3 episodes, we'll have to wait until February, and you start to realize that this is all just the writers wasting time.

You're telling me that we only get to see the first six episodes and then have to wait what, 3 months for the next episodes? Is that SERIOUSLY how they're doing this? I should stop watching now before they break my heart. Really.

It's like trying to remember a person before they got cancer and died. You don't want to remember them lying in a goddamned hospital bed, choking on their own vomit. REMEMBER THE GOOD TIMES.

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LOST= the way to watch a shitload of commercials with a bit of show tacked on.

Even then, "show" is starting to get muddled.

I thought they brought on new writers this season, no? What the hell happened, here. LeHah WARNED me about this. SO UPSET. ;_;

(also, I would like to know what happened to Danielle. Where the black smoke is. so on and so forth)

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Trigunnerz

If you hate the frequent commercials, watch it online. ABC provides online viewing of Lost with limited commercials. Like you just have to wait 30 seconds. Then you can fast foward stuff you think are boring and stuff.

I do hate the commercials, but at the same time, I struggle with the idea of seeing it with the rest of America, you know?

I think I can tolerate the commercials, no matter how numerous, and just use them as pee breaks or whatever.

How's the watching online? Is it streaming?

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Originally Posted by rockthepartay

Have we forgotten how Arzt was introduced? Ethan? Almost the exact same way.

But really, how much did Arzt matter? He was there only for dramatic effect, and had he not been giving a break to Hurley for comic relief, he would have served no real purpose. That was a mistake too, if you ask me - putting him in randomly.

Ethan is questionable, though. You weren't SUPPOSED to notice him. That was the entire point, though I admit he could have been expounded upon a little bit before hand.

How ya doing, buddy?

Yea, about the hatch just IMPLODING and everyone surviving - that seems like an AWFULLY EASY WAY to get rid of the hatch. Exactly one season ago at this time, the hatch was of dire importance. Now, the hatch is completely gone, and all the mysteries with it (the button, the doors, the new appliances) are gone.

It seems like an easy way to get rid of it - especially when it turns out to be so inconsequential. EVERYTHING is turning out to be inconsequential. Thats whats pissing me off. ;_;

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Musharraf

I'm still trying to figure out how exactly John and Desmond got out of this, uhh, "implosion" alive. And why was Desmond naked, etc.

It was the will of the island, Musharraf! THE ISLAND WANTED THEM TO SURVIVE. (so lame)

But I'm with everyone else - why didn't at least Desmond die in the implosion? I like Desmond and all - maybe more than Eko - but someone should have seriously died in that - Desmond was all wrapped up. He should have died.

And also, Desmond says he put in the safety override key just before the implosion, which saved them all.

Which I can't really swallow, considering the condition of the hatch. (Did anyone else think the hatch looked rather small, area-wise, when Charlie and Locke looked down on it?)

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by SILBER-1

She's also the reason that I think they kept Desmond around. Libby gave him the money (or was it just the boat?) to do his race

Just the boat, I believe.

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...and she still factors into Hurly's past more than he knew too. Since she's too dead to have her own flashbacks they'll be filling in the gaps for her.

FUck Libby and Ana Lucia. They're both dead and they should seriously be left behind. Which I don't like to admit, since they spent an amount of time on them, but you figure you wouldn't care when they died if they HADN'T spent time on them.

I am tempted to say that the episode where they both die is the last good episode I saw. I used to gasp and get excited by the shocks and twists, but now, they're so stupid I can hardly watch it. O WOW, DESMOND CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE. Locke takes LSD and gets answers from a dead character which acts on behalf of the island!

so lame.

Incidentally, Dopefish started watching from S3 as well. I made him watch the premier. Just before the premier, I showed him the first episode on DVD. HE HATED the first episode (i have no idea - I always thought it was amazingly powerful), but likes S3. WHAT THE FUCK.

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Originally Posted by Helloween

All i can say is, they'd better give us something to settle our minds before they go on hiatus till february.

So this is the last episode for a while? I was unsure if it was tonight or next WEdnesday that would be the last until fucking FEBRUARY. (Thats such a huge break. Frustrating.)

Also, Kre - I LOVE that theory. I just wish everything would add up that nicely. I somehow doubt it, though. Consider how sloppy they've all been. Nothing has really added up to a whole lot.

I keep wondering if in S5 (if they get that far with keeping the story intact), they will FINALLY enlighten us, completely and wholly. Is that how long we have to wait to get EVERYTHING answered?

The least they can do is throw some tiny little bones at us to keep us interested.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

So. Ben is dying from a tumor. Desmond looks and acts increasingly more and more like Jesus. The Island is actually ANOTHER island! Something I actually thought of WAY BACK in Season 1 where I heard rumors that Danielle was on a tiny island off the coast, with The Others.

They need Sawyer for some reason, and Kate is a dirty liar. Jack kills yet another (accidentally, of course) and Sawyer has a daughter.

I am mad at Sawyer. I am unsure as to why.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Helloween

I'm confused. What's the signifigance of there being two islands supposed to be?

The survivors would have never found them on the island that THEY reside on.

A while ago when the first season started, I saw a map of the island(s). On the map, the producers had written a small note pointing to a side, small island where it mentioned Danielle's daughter residing.

I don't really care for it, though. I mean, its nothing THAT profound. O WOW, THE OTHERS ARE CAMPED OUT ON AN ISLAND. Thats exactly what I would have done. At least now, we can figure out why there was a cable runnign through the beach which Sayid found in season 1.

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The thing that struck me more was when Jack realized he was there to save someone. It gives a reason as to why they were keeping Jack under special treatment and not making him do the same seemingly pointless physical labour that Sawyer and Kate are subjected to.

In this week's promo, they mentioned they needed Sawyer, too. Its "the only reason {he} isn't dead." I imagine they have a purpose for Kate as well.

Funny thing: Did anyone pick up on the fact that the blonde doctor who is working with Jack is a fertility doctor?

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An shit, man, that trailer for next episode... ooooo they'd better deliver.

You KNOW they won't.

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This week's episode will be Eko-centric. I have a feeling it will be Eko who dies. They say it won't be Sawyer, so.

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man, who's the creepy dude in the screen. I want more Lost. NOW!!!

God, you sound like me when I first started watching. You get used to the teasing and the need to have patience really quickly.

To answer your question (BIG SPOILER):

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It's a new character, late 40's. A formidable man, tough, a real survivor. A real sense of charisma and danger. Possibly recurring.

So I am reading also that Nikki and Pauolo are just "guest starring." "Guest starring are Kiele Sanchez as Nikki, Rodrigo Santoro as Paulo." They damned well BETTER be guest starring. What a SHITTY WAY to introduce 2 new islanders.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Am I the only one who isn't too excited about tonight? I think I know who will die tonight and Jack having to operate on Ben is no shock.

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My guess is Eko is going to get the axe. And also, I hear Ben gives Jack a kind of ultimatum when Jack gets confrontational about operating on Ben.

Jack is left to take the ultimatum, from what I hear, out of lack of any other options.

I REALLY hope tonight's episode pays off a little bit.

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Originally Posted by rockthepartay

The monster is back... Fucking finally.

No shit, right? How could we have forgotten Eko's little run-in with it in S2?

So. What can we gather, here? That ALL of the hallucinations on the islands of peoples' past were actually all the appearance of the monster?

Why did the black smoke react so poorly when Eko spoke to it "as though it was his brother." ???

Also, they're next? Meaning Locke, Sayid, and the two fuckheads? Or EVERYONE who survived?

I saw next week's preview and the last 4 seconds of it nearly brought me to tears.

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If they kill Sawyer, I swear I won't watch the show anymore.

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I also hear that next week, Kate "picks" between Saywer and Jack - with some intimacy involved. I think the preview pretty much tells us who that would be - OBVIOUS CHOICE. I HOPE. You never know. ;_;

Also, whats up with Blondie trying to convince Jack to kill Ben in surgery. The fuck.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Krelian

Oh, and why did Ben mention Juliet looking like Sarah? That weirded me out. What's the significance?

Are you KIDDING. ;_;

Seriously, dude. Think.

Ben wants Jack to trust Juliet. If Juliet resembles his EX WIFE, a woman he LOVED and was obviously ATTRACTED TO, he would have an easy time confiding in Juliet. Ben went out of his way to toy with Jack's head with his confidant.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Looks like PA lost its faith (hur hur) with Lost.

I guess you didn't see this posted a page back. =/

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Personally, I like the fact that they aren't spelling out what'll happen in the show. Keeping things open like this mean that just about any scenario can occur, but you'll never be able to figure out which one. Looks like they borrowed the concept from 24 and Prison Break. I just hope they don't pick a randomly stupid path (Jack Bauer's wife having amnesia? Racist Hillbillies stealing the super important disk? A bobcat? Come on).

So....what exactly did you say in this post? You.....hope that they keep the plotline wide open, but you hope that they won't exploit that wide-openness?

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Off topic, but I'm very much looking forward to Daybreak. I love the Groundhog Day concept, and I think a whole show (or at least season) devoted to that idea is very interesting. My TV Guide voted it as best new show of the fall, so I'll be keeping watch.

Personally, I think that show looks like such shit. Repeat the same day over and over again, EXCEPT without Bill Murray?

The only reason Groundhog Day was an awesome movie was because it had Bill fucking Murray and it was funny. As in COMEDY.

This shit with Taye Diggs looks like absolute crap. I won't be watching. The same day relived every day, having to prevent the death of your girlfriend? What a headache.

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Originally Posted by Sousuke

Wow. What Jack just pulled in the 'Fall Finale' was good.

When he agreed to do the surgery, I was curious what he had up his sleeve. It was kind of obvious he had a plan, but I had no idea where he'd go with it.

He also told Kate to go someplace safe - I wonder if he knows that they're on another island? I wonder if thats even TRUE

Also, what the fuck is up Locke's sleeve? He's going to totally storm the goddamned Others Station in a boat or something. Ahaha, that would be so cool~

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But... Having to wait until February for the conclusion? THAT sucks. D:

Ugh, I know, right? SUCKS ASS. But at least it will be a new episode, every Wednesday until the end of the season. I guess that makes it worth it?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Now that the thread is back up in rotation, I thought I may point out a few things my friends and I noticed over the duration of the waiting period:

1.) ABC has little "Lost Moments" which are mini-trailers for the upcoming season. There are nine of them, and while you can watch a new one each week on ABC's site, you can just as easily go to YouTube and search "Lost Moments" and get all of them to pop up. ABC likes to inundate their commercials with commercials - I recommend YouTube, if you care.

2.) Did anyone notice this?:

Back in Season 2, I believe, Sayid was interrogated by the CIA. After a friend watched all of S1 and 2, she noticed that Kate's Dad was involved in Sayid's interrogation and the dude who was WITH Desmond in the hatch actually DID the interrogation.

So I guess the guy who brought Desmond to the hatch was actually a former (?) CIA agent.

O, I guess some reminders? Lost is going to be on Wednesdays at 10pm now. It's a bitch, and I don't know why they did that. It comes back on Feb. 7

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII

Because Lost was starting to lose in the ratings to Criminal Minds. That, combined with the fact that they would have been up against American Idol means the ratings could have been pretty low, so they decided to move it to a less competitve timeslot.

I wonder how much it will effect their audience...I know I am not too thrilled about the time slot change. Have you heard anything about the general attitude towards it?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by The Furious One

Lost Producers Determining End Date

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=18426




WHAAAAAT, back to the beach!?!?! So they start and this major deal with the 'Others' only to say fuck that, lets go back to the beach, everyone loves the beach...hmmmm beeeeeach

What I understood from that was that Lost will revisit the beach more often, ensuring all characters get semi-equal air time.

But I think it's too late for that business - we're already more interested in the plight of Jack, Sawyer and Kate. Who cares that Desmond is Jesus. Who cares about Charlie's struggle to keep Claire in his life?

I want to be hurled toward answers.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

To be fair, his story did end in the season 2 finale, but I mean come on. Did it REALLY? He sails off with Walt towards unknown shores, something Desmond has tried repeatedly and FAILED because of some "snowglobe" theory. Who's to say he even made it out alive? This show has so many fucking loose ends it makes me sick.

Realistically, if they don't come to a concrete conclusion for that part of the story, I will go apeshit.

They've done virtually no explaining of anything so far, and I think this one aspect (Walter and Michael) could be easily done, even if it "matches" Desmond's story.

I become more and more irrirated with what I read. Like Jazz said, its becoming some bedtime story that some guy makes up as he goes along. It's becoming too big and too loose to even try and explain everything.

And god forbid they make an attempt at Michael's story.

But I'll be watching tonight, nontheless.

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Originally Posted by Plarom

That 'Survival Guide' that previously aired was kinda INTENSE and because of it, I just started watching Lost for the first time ever.

<3333 WELCOME TO THE CLUB, PLAROM! Its a reeeeally good show.

So. I am not disappointed at ALL tonight (for once). I feel like we got a good amount of information this time around - thank GOD. I was scared. I've been waiting for this for MONTHS.

There's a lot of things I want to go over, but I will have to look at the episode again and write everything down.

Alex is Danielle's daughter....and Ben's? Is Ben Danielle's husband? The one who "caught the virus" and died? Interesting. I dunno if it's a lie or not.

I also liked the whole bit with Juliette's flashback. I think she's INTENSELY more interesting than the other characters at this point. I really love what they did here. It looks like the current group of Others is a independent, privately run research team. Ethan is one of the recruiters, I guess.

Anyone find Alpert or whomever to be familiar? I didn't recognize him. Maybe a relation to Alvar Hanso?

Again, I think a lot was answered here. I am feeling a little relieved. And I have to admit, I cried when Juliette's sister told her that she was pregnant. It was a good, touching moment. Just what I was hoping for.

This episode brought back some hopes.

O, ANOTHER thing. Interesting how Juliette's husband got killed by a bus right after she said she HOPES he would to the Alpert man. Who apparently has a hand in the island. Which has weirdo shit like that happenening non-stop. Which KINDA takes away from the mysticism, depending on how you look at it. Nice twist.

I don't really care about the others dudes on the beach too much, though. But I guess I can, now that some answers have come up. O - there's another hatch, apparently. Where the clockwork-esque brainwashing of Alex's boyfriend was going on. Anyone happen to stumble on the name of that one?

That brainwashing bit was INTENSE. I found myself staring at it, a lot like Saywer.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by The Dopefish

Well, they meant to kill Karl, so the biggest mysteries surrounding him are WHY Ben wanted to kill him and WHAT were they trying to accomplish. I strongly doubt Karl knows much about the island the plane crash survivors are on.

I don't know why you're assuming that they want to kill Karl. It seems pretty clear to me that they DON'T want to kill Karl. If they wanted him dead, they had some time to do it WAY before everyone else got there.

I think they're using him for their experiments.

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Now the question begs to be asked: will both Jack AND Juliette be able to go "home"? I don't think anyone can go anywhere right now.

I doubt Jack is going anywhere. Juliette, maybe.

Knowing Jack, he wouldn't leave without everyone else.

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Remember when Tom started saying something about not being able to move Ben to a facility because the sky turned purple? I wonder if the Others have lost contact with the outside world with this in mind.

I know you haven't see all the episodes, but you really ought to go back and watch the end of S2. When the "sky turned purple," the hatch blew up. That was only a few days on the island (or not more than 2 weeks...on average, 1 season is about 1-2 months). In other words, tumors aren't faster-growers. Ben's been sick for a long time, I am assuming. Especially if he's currently on the brink of death, according to Jack.

It is, however, KNOWN that when the hatch exploded, people across the world knew it. I'm not sure about civilians, but they showed a couple of dudes in what looked like Siberia or something playing chess who saw that there was something that rocked the island when the hatch exploded. I don't remember if they KNEW it was the hatch, but it was clear they were monitoring it - from somewhere other than the island.

So yea, chances are this isn't a closed-off facility.

Also recall that they get food drops. Someone is making sure the Others are nice and comfy on the island.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kishin

Sawyer's a movie nerd. How many movie references did he make during that single episode, did anyone count?

Thah Cheech & Chong one was pretty well placed.

I got a kick out of the wookie hostage crack when they beat the guard down to get into the hatch to save Karl, myself. ^_^

Dope, that doesn't mean they WANT to kill him. Juliette was smart enough to use Karl to keep Alex on the island with them. If they wanted him dead, he'd be dead by now. They're using it as a tool against Alex, just like they used Sawyer against Kate and Kate against Jack.

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Originally Posted by sprouticus

It was a complete cop-out to the question "what happened to Desmond when the hatch blew on up?" I think more people are wondering how did the hatch become a crater and not kill any of the people inside of it?

Yea, good point.

I'm a little confused about the hatch, though. Everytime I've seen it post-implosion, it looks a HELL of a lot smaller than it actually IS. I mean, it was like an underground apartment. Everytime they show it imploded upon itself, its only a ditch in the ground.

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The whole time-travel theory is one that I really hope they avoid, because for a show like this that has no answers to its questions, the last thing we need a question that literally can't be answered in regards to how he can physically move through time and space like that.

I think if Desmond is able to see ahead on the island, then he's lived it before. He's been through everything on the island before (like in his flashback) and will try and "change" it to no avail?

Also, I want to know if that woman with the diamond ring in the shop was his subconscious or not. I don't think she was, but it was kind of implied.

I hope it's not "time travel." That will be so lame and generic. Deja vu would be pretty okay though, if they have good ideas on how to twist it.

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I also really hope that "what are Jack's tattoos" isn't one of the THREE BIGGEST MYSTERIES, because that's not a fucking mystery, nobody cares except for Jack fangirls (whom all flock to Sawyer anyway).

UGH, I KNOW. I don't CARE about Jack's tattoos - Matthew Fox had that tattoo from Party of 5 anyways.

I think they're just pulling shit out of the sky and running with it.

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I am interested to see what happened to the kids, but I'm sure all it will do is answer it with another question.

Why does everyone care about the kids? ;_;

I don't give a shit about them. They could be dead for all I care. We weren't made to be emotionally attached to them at ALL.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Oooi vey did anyone else think tonight's episode sucked? Maybe I just really dislike Jack flashbacks, but who the hell cares that he got Ling Bai to tattoo him against cultural faux-pas? "He walks amongst us, but is not one of us." Wooo, what a tie-in, guys!

Maybe I'm bitter about the Skate thing going awry. I think Kate is just PMSing and is feeling guilty about Jack.

Speaking of Jack, he's going to be lost forever if they up and move with Dipshit Ben. He'll have to find his OWN way home, unless Locke figures it all out haaaa ha ha.

I also thought 3 secrets were supposed to be revealed in tonight's episode. I hope one of them wasn't that the stewardess and the kids are just peachy - we already knew that, essentially.

Ugh. Back to being unimpressed. They better wow me, or they're going to lost me at the end of the season.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by rockthepartay

But for storytelling, I thought it was pretty good.

While you have a point, I can tell you I am not watching this show for "story telling" anymore. I could watch a 2 hour movie on DVD which'd have NO commercials and would finish up by the end of 2 hours if I wanted "story telling."

I'm not lashing out at you. I'm lashing out at the producers. I think LeHah was right when he told me not to get my hopes up.

EDIT: LOL @ Tritoch - you're right. At least this week they were on the island, albeit mostly in the goddamned CAGE.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by rockthepartay

Say what you will about the episode, but don't blame the writers/producers on how ABC promotes the show. I'm pretty sure they have zero input on it.

I don't understand what ABC's promotion has to do with shitty, elongated episodes dragging on and on about the characters on the island? Can you explain what you mean?

Like Midna (very aptly) put it, we're sick of flashbacks. This is season 3. Character development of all the "survivors" should be pretty well settled. I appreciated JULIETTE'S flashback, and even a littl more of Desmond, but seriously. If I have to watch ONE MORE JACK FLASHBACK.

This character development should be moved on by now.

How ya doing, buddy?