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Harry Potter and the Last Book (Now with Discussion of Books 1-6!!)
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Old Apr 4, 2006, 11:05 PM Local time: Apr 4, 2006, 10:05 PM #1 of 46
Originally Posted by CloudNine
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Also remember all the things that happened leading up to the time that Harry and Dumbledore arrived on the Astronomy tower. Assuming that the only people to enter the cave besides Riddle and R.A.B., were Harry and Dumbledore, how could Pettigrew, or Snape controlling him, know how to get to the horcrux? Considering that it has been said that the only person that was thought to be more powerful than Riddle, at the peak of his power, was Dumbledore. I would think that no one would have been able to get past those protections besides Dumbledore. If it had to be Dumbledore in the cave with Harry and seeing as how they never left each others sight since they left the Castle, how could it have been Pettigrew? I don't think that theory makes much sense.

I am inclined to think that Dumbledore died on purpose, having told Snape to do what he had to do to stay undercover with Riddle. Nothing would help Riddle decide that Snape was really on his side like killing Dumbledore would. I think that Snape actually respected Dumbledore and it was terribly hard for him to do what he had to do, hence why Dumbledore was pleading for him to follow through with it. Also, the way that he gets very upset when Harry calls him a coward at the end is also highly suspicious. Why would Snape care so much if it had not pained him to do what he had just done? If it was not him tawho was being the bravest and had the hardest task assigned to him?
Yeah, I agree COMPLETELY. I've pretty much thought the same thing since the moments that I was reading the lines for the first time. Too bad my view is unpopular amongst my friends and family.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 10:49 AM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 09:49 AM #2 of 46
PLEASE get rid of spoilers. If you don't want to be spoiled, what are you doing in a book discussion thread?

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Old Apr 13, 2006, 02:20 PM Local time: Apr 13, 2006, 01:20 PM #3 of 46
Two other things definetly make me believe that Snape killed Dumbledore on Dumbledore's own orders. First, Dumbledore's pleading for his own life would be wildly out of character. Secondly, Snape's rage after Harry calling him a coward for Dumbledore's murder was uncharacteristic. Over the last several pages he had been taunting and tormenting Potter, in the same was that Snape always has.

"Kill me then," panted Harry, who felt no fear at all, but only rage and contempt. "Kill me like you killed him, you coward -"
"DON'T-" screamed Snape, and his face was suddenly demented, inhuman, as though he was in as much pain as the yelping, howling dog stuck in the burning house behind them - "CALL ME COWARD!"


Does that sound more like Snape wanted to kill Dumbledore? J.K. wants you to think that his anger is toward the accusation of him being a coward, but why would he react in such a way when in other situations, words roll right off of him?

However, being called a coward after doing the hardest thing you've ever done in your life (murdering the only person that trusts you), an act that would require a great amount of BRAVERY would anger anyone.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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