[Burger] The Ultra Street Fighter 4 Burger Challenge

Step 1. A bunch of us get together to play Ultra.
Step 2. Every time you lose a match on the Diner stage, you add 1 to your Burger Quotient.
Step 3. You go to meet next year and eat that number of burgers (in a single sitting).

Burger Amendment 1: On Pinball Wizardry

Two burgers shall ever be the WAGES OF MARS. Whomever both punches and REIGNS OVER MARS* shall assign the fate of these Pinburgers, and so shall the Martian soil be stained forever with the blood of the punched. If the title of MARS LORD is seized by a nonpuncher, the burgers will not be shifted 'til next a puncher shall take the throne.

*has the current high score among us on the Mars table on Pinball FX2.

Amendment 1 repealed as of January 1

Burger Amendment 2: Conservation of Burgers

As of the creation of the 52nd burger, the total number of burgers shall be frozen until such time as a 14th burger-holder enters the rankings (whereupon the burger cap will increase to 56, and etc). Future burgers earned will be deducted from the burger count of the match winner. Burgers are no longer created. In the event of the match winner having no burgers, said match winner may be allowed to enter a state of Negative Burger).

Burger Tally

Pang : 10 + 2 Lag Burgers
Acer: 8
Diss: 5 + 1 Angry Burger
Term: 6
Shade: 2 + 2 Pin Burgers
^___^: 3
Garr: 3
Mo0: 3
SuperSonic: 3
Rasputin : 2
Capo: 1
Juan: 1 Angry Burger
Hawkeye: 1 Lag Burger
Pack: 1

Total: 54 Burgers (or burger-equivalents) out of possible 56

GLOSSARY

Angry Burger: As standard burger, except adapted to be unbearably hot and spicy via means as yet undetermined. Granted by loss in an Angry Diner match (a match containing only Oni, Akuma, or Evil Ryu).
Lag Burger: As standard burger, but eaten in a slow, jerky, uncoordinated fashion. You must mash the burger into your face at least once. Granted by loss in a Diner match that was badly hampered by lag.
Pin Burger: As standard burger, but flipped into one's mouth with an implement (the burger must be in midair briefly). Granted by punishment from the Lord of Mars.
Perfect Burger: As standard burger, but the largest possible variety of that burger and with all available toppings in the maximum amounts. Granted by a Double Perfect loss in a Diner match.
Burrito: Literally a burrito and not just a weird burrito-esque burger. Ideally of roughly the same bulk as the standard burger. Probably should be a beef burrito for consistency's sake. Granted by loss to El Fuerte in a Diner match.
Shiny Burger: NATURE UNDETERMINED (sugar glazing?). Granted by losing a Diner match by 2 Ultra Finishes at the hand of Dan's Ultra 1 (Shisso Buraiken).

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Magnificent.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Step 1. A bunch of us get together to play Ultra.
Step 2. Every time you lose a match on the diner stage, you add 1 to your Burger Quotient.
Step 3. You go to meet next year and eat that number of burgers.
Step 4. We all attend Deni's funeral.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Garr and I were talking about that last night; does it only count during bigger group play, or even individually? Cause if it's just the times that two of us are playing it means there's gonna be a lot of burgers for some people. It also means that Garr has earned a burger.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Garr can correct me since it's his Potential Burger but at the time I believe we agreed to forego burgering since we were just experimenting with different things rather than actually fighting. I'll leave him off the list for now unless he feels differently.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

We almost always random; I don't think anyone's ever deliberately picked the diner before. I don't imagine anyone wants to open that can of worms, because once it happens you'd have revenge diner selections going on and it would quickly turn into everyone has to eat literally a thousand burgers.

FELIPE NO

I'm horrified by what I think could be your implication for the loser on that stage.

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What, are you giving up on Rolento already?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Only if you lose in Pitch-black Jungle.

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Originally Posted by LIAR

Meet 2015 is nothing but burritos and Burgers.

I don't see any downside to this.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yes, but that also doesn't start with a B so you lose any compelling alliteration.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

He's just so hungry.

I was speaking idiomatically.

That is not the title of this thread! Don't be mad just because you got two burgers in an hour!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

You're talkin a lot of shit for being the only person to get burgers on a character he actually knows how to play, Erik.

FELIPE NO

Fucking with NASA confirmed to end in sadness.

Additional Spam:
There is a whole bunch of stuff going on this weekend, though it's all overseas so it's happening at hours that are earlier (or later) than you'd typically expect.



What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

None of us bother with ranked though so who knows

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Been meaning to do this for a while - had already replaced the training stage music, and now I replaced the rest of the stage as well with a version of the classic Ryu stage some dude made. Looks rad.



No more boxes.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

[ 21:30:58 ] [ +Garr ] dude it just fucking dawned on me
[ 21:31:06 ] [ +Garr ] someone needs to make a president mod for ultra street fighter 4
[ 21:34:24 ] [ +Pang ] I don't know what that means
[ 21:34:46 ] [ +Garr ] Ok, so America has had 44 presidents so far, right?
[ 21:34:53 ] [ +Garr ] There are 44 characters in Street Fighter right now
[ 21:34:55 ] [ +Garr ] Am I wrong?
[ 21:35:26 ] [ +Pang ] You are... not wrong.
[ 21:35:57 ] [ +Garr ] I guess Grover Cleveland would have to be in there twice
[ 21:36:02 ] [ @CHz ] Evil Grover Cleveland
[ 21:36:05 ] [ +Garr ] ^
[ 21:36:13 ] [ +Garr ] So it still works!

[ 21:41:24 ] [ +AcerBandit ] so like which presidents would be mapped to the female characters?
[ 21:41:46 ] [ +AcerBandit ] i want to know which president is ibuki

[ 21:47:27 ] [ +Pang ] Her enthusiasm for knives, the pelts of animals, and strangling people makes Ibuki a strong contender for Teddy Roosevelt
[ 21:53:00 ] [ +Pang ] Satsui no Pullman Strike Intervention ni Mezameta Guroba

[ 21:54:05 ] [ +Garr ] I'm out, dudes, see you all later.
[ 21:54:07 ] ? ? Quits : Garr [ ~Garr@PSI-DA1E31EB.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net ]
[ 21:54:46 ] [ +Pang ] Garr is not prepared to combat the Wrath of the Raging Cleveland
[ 22:03:05 ] [ +AcerBandit ] i'd main the hell out of teddy roosevelt

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rsd2if6PY8

Anyone who missed the Canada Cup grand finals is a FOOL.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

And now, the matches that had maybe the greatest moment up until the grand finals. Witness the rise of MIKE BALROG.

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I was speaking idiomatically.

NEC 15 this weekend.

Spoiler:

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I think that depends a lot on your target audience. This tournament wasn't a Capcom-sponsored major event, it's just a dude who puts on a tournament, so I imagine they were probably aiming it more at people who already know a fair bit about the game and don't need that sort of in-depth description.

Anything with James Chen and Ultradavid is probably something that you would appreciate more; I think they're still my favourite pair but I do like the style in the linked video as well. I have to head out for a bit but I'll link them calling a match later.

Try this match out for some commentary that focuses more on discussing the game mechanics and character match-up, Shin.

FELIPE NO

It turns out that leaked SF5 teaser was intended for that Sony Playstation Experience event. They did talk about SF5, and released some more gameplay footage that looks pretty interesting. I think some of the particle effects are overdone by SF standards, but this is obviously a really early build and the visuals (specifically particles) always change significantly by release. Not really sure how to interpret that launch off the ground - I hope it doesn't turn into Marvel.

The game has also been confirmed as a PS4 console exclusive as well as being available on the PC, and the really cool thing now is that there will be cross-play support between the two platforms.

Originally Posted by SuperSonic

While I do like UltraChen, the combo I enjoy the most is Sp00ky and IFC|Yipes. Any freakin day.

I don't disagree they're great, but that is pretty much an exclusively MvC commentary pair.

How ya doing, buddy?

Greetings, Burgerfriends. Since I like math, I have taken it upon myself to examine our burger numbers in more detail in an attempt to see what would happen if everyone had identical play times. Obviously this is not the case and those who play more tend to accrue more burgers just by the increased probability of a burger match coming up, and so on.

What I first attempted was to normalize burgers according to hours played as recorded by Steam. This, of course, was problematic as Steam hours don't take into account time actually spent burger punching, as leaving the game open, waiting in lobbies, spectating, and training all contribute to this value. As a result, this is probably not a reliable metric to use.

What I decided upon was reconstructing, as best I could, people's actual time spent punching, which is why I asked all of you for the data that I did. Obviously there are many assumptions made necessarily that will increase the error of the results, but what can you do?

Here are the input numbers as recorded at the time of analysis. Note that special burgers are the sum total of a player's earned non-normal burgers. If a player had earned a perfect burger and an angry burger, his special burger value would be 2.

Input:

Name  Normal Burgers    Special Burgers    Total Burgers
Pang          9                 2                 11
Diss          8                 1                 9
Term          6                 0                 6
Acer          5                 0                 5
Shade         2                 2                 4
Garr          4                 0                 4
Mo0           3                 0                 3
Erik          2                 0                 2
Sonic         2                 0                 2
Face          1                 0                 1
Capo          1                 0                 1
Juan          0                 1                 1

My methodology is as follows, using my own data as an example.

Using your round victory data (perfect, normal, time, etc.) it's easy to sum them to determine the total number of rounds that you have won. In my case:

Example data:

Perfect 15
Normal  1872
Ultra   344
Super   162
Chip    101
Time    19

Total  2513

Since I also have data for number of fights and wins, I can calculate losses. Given a regular first-to-two match format, I can estimate the number of rounds won in wins (at 2 rounds per win) which leaves the rest of the rounds won as rounds won in a match that was ultimately lost (e.g. winning a round and then losing the next two).

Example data:

RdW-W: Rounds won in matches that were won
RdW-L: Rounds won in matches that were lost
RdW-T: Total rounds won
RdL-T: Total rounds lost
Rd-T: Total rounds played

Fights 1709
Wins   947
RdW-W  1894
RdW-L  619
RdW-T  2513
RdL-T  2143
Rd-T   4656

Assuming a standard round duration (e.g. 65 seconds) with the exception of time wins (99 seconds) it is possible to estimate each player's total time spent in actual burger-eligible combat. Note that Pang's numbers are inaccurate and I have not yet attempted to control for that. The round time doesn't really matter a lot, as it is applied consistently for each player, but I thought it would be interesting to see how long actual fight time measured.

Time data:

The last column represents the ratio between the preceding two columns. Basically the percentage of your time played that is potentially in burger combat.

Name    Steam hours    Fight hours     Fight/Steam (%)
Pang       260             16.9              6.5
Diss       454             84.2             18.6
Term       103             24.2             23.5
Acer        64             17.3             27.1
Shade       34             10.5             30.9
Garr        89             30.1             33.9
Mo0          4              1.0             26.2
Erik       150             40.8             27.2
Sonic       49             14.3             29.2
Face        22              5.0             22.9
Capo        26              8.2             31.6
Juan        45              9.7             21.6

I then took the player's fight time (again, 84.2 hours to use myself as an example) and divided that by the average communal fight time (21.9 hours) in order to calculate each individual's Burger Factor, and divided their earned burgers by that value.

Burger normalization:

Name    Burger factor    Normal burgers     Special burgers
Pang        0.77             12                      3
Diss        3.85              3                      1
Term        1.11              5                      0
Acer        0.79              7                      0
Shade       0.48              5                      5
Garr        1.34              3                      0
Mo0         0.05             63                      0
Erik        1.86              2                      0
Sonic       0.65              4                      0
Face        0.23              5                      0
Capo        0.38              3                      0
Juan        0.44              0                      3

I have taken the liberty of rounding up to the next whole burger in these data, but actual numbers are available if you are legitimately curious. I'll just upload the spreadsheet or something if anyone besides Skills cares enough to see it.

When I sum these adjusted burgers, the total is 115.6, far higher than our total Actual Burger value of 49. I took the calculated value and divided by the actual value to get a Burger Inflation Factor, which was 2.36. I then divided all previously stated Adjusted Burger Values (raw, not rounded, obvs) to get a final burger score for each individual.

Burger de-inflation:

Name    Normal burgers     Special burgers
Pang        5                      2
Diss        1                      1
Term        3                      0
Acer        3                      0
Shade       2                      2
Garr        2                      0
Mo0         27                     0
Erik        1                      0
Sonic       2                      0
Face        2                      0
Capo        2                      0
Juan        0                      1

The only problem with this is that since this creates a zero-sum burger relationship, Mo0 has taken the majority of the burgers (as you might expect) so everyone else's totals are proportionally deflated. I have not removed Mo0 as an outlier, but I will update this after doing so.


If I just delete Mo0 outright, a desire with which we can all relate, then burgers are distributed as follows:

Zoom out:

Name    Normal burgers     Special burgers
Pang        11                     3
Diss        2                      1
Term        5                      0
Acer        6                      0
Shade       4                      4
Garr        3                      0
Erik        1                      0
Sonic       3                      0
Face        4                      0
Capo        3                      0
Juan        0                      2

Jam it back in, in the dark.