Best Anime Song Contest: Separated or combined?

I think clarification is needed as to whether insert tracks that are played in the middle of the show that are neither featured as an opening or ending track qualifies for the OP/ED category or the BGM category.

Once that's sorted out, I'll throw in my vote.

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Originally Posted by sjcrik

instead of making the categories op/ed and bgms, maybe we can call it vocals and non-vocals? vocals can then include image songs or insert songs besides just op/eds

So openings/endings that don't have vocals (such as Xenosaga's opening) will be in the BGM category?

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Originally Posted by Bigblah

Hiro: I think it should be placed in the BGM bracket, due to reasons stated by Goldfish and Merv.

Not sure I agree with this personally, but anyway, I guess "BGM" should be renamed to "Music" or "Instrumentals" then. Not really background music if it's never played during the show.

I would've been interested in seeing how far Cowboy Bebop's opening goes against vocal tracks, but I guess that won't be happening now.

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Originally Posted by Easy

So, are all released materials included in the contest? I'm wondering where do image albums, remixes, and character songs fit into this, if at all?

Wait, this question wasn't really answered directly, but it seems from the updated poll that image songs are now included? I had assumed that this contest would be similar to the VGM one in that alternate arrangements would not be allowed (even if it was official), please correct me if I'm wrong. I would think that image albums would qualify as an "arrangement" since they sometimes don't even make it into the show. Character image songs are even more likely to not be included since they're usually just a part of some drama CD or something.

Originally Posted by NYRSkate

Only original versions of game music tracks, whether from a game soundtrack, game rip, redbook audio rip, or whatnot, are allowed in this contest. Arrangements, whether official or fan-made, or piano tracks will not be considered.

What's the final say on this, folks? I guess I'm probably being a little anal here, but I would like everything out in black and white.

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Originally Posted by Bigblah

They rarely do arrangements of anime music, so "image albums" are quite different from what you're thinking since the music/songs in them are often original.

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Image songs/music/poem of a film are created based on the themes inspired by "images" from the film's storyboard. They were composed before the film was complete. Some of the pieces are eventually used in the film.
An image album contains a collection of image songs/music.
--Nausicaa.net

Is your understanding of "image songs" a little different than this one? I've always went with this definition myself.

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And contrary to what you think, character image songs are very often used in the shows themselves (they need to sell copies, after all).

Which animes are you thinking of? I guess maybe I just haven't seen that much anime or maybe the ones I have just happened to not use these "character image songs"?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I just always viewed songs like the one that was played in Haruhi as insert songs. However, I had a chat with Bigblah on IRC and he classifies ones like that as both an insert song and a character image song, so it's all cleared up now.

For the record, zzeroparticle, I have not seen Love Hina (although yes, I know of it, certainly not an obscure secures indeed) or Kasimasi (which I have also heard of but have not seen).

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Originally Posted by Lee-chan

I might just be confused here, but if an image song appears in the middle of an anime episode, wouldn't it considered an insert song at that point? I'd like to know Bigblah's explanation on the subject.

He classified those as both being an insert song and a character image song when he was talking to me.

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Aug 10 00:27:54 <Gigablah> see my post
Aug 10 00:27:56 * Snowknight is now known as Snowknight|sleep
Aug 10 00:28:17 <Hiro> actually, I forgot to say something
Aug 10 00:28:20 <Hiro> but i'll see your reply first
Aug 10 00:29:21 <Gigablah> added an example
Aug 10 00:30:10 <Hiro> Oh, I always viewed those as insert songs.
Aug 10 00:30:26 <Hiro> but the songs in character CDs weren't sung
Aug 10 00:30:30 <Hiro> like I think they had one for Yuki?
Aug 10 00:31:28 <Gigablah> Insert song is a broader definition
Aug 10 00:31:42 <Gigablah> character image songs are performed by the character VA
Aug 10 00:31:49 <Gigablah> insert songs can be performed by anyone
Aug 10 00:31:57 <Gigablah> so character image songs can be insert songs at the same time

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So what's the deal with this? :/

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