[General Discussion] FFVII Compilation Thread

Am I the only person who is confused as to why people are so anxiously waiting for the Final Fantasy equivalent of Pocahontas II and Bambi II?

I know I went into this film with low enough expectations but I was just so incredibly disappointed by this film that just seems to serve no purpose but to milk some cash out of Final Fantasy fans instead of giving them what they really want, such as a remake of the original Final Fantasy VII, a film version of the original Final Fantasy VII, or a more timely release of Final Fantasy XII.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Most fans want to see what happens after the game, too, especially considering the piss-poor ending. You can only take so many iterations of the same story (film, remake, etc) before you desire something new.

And Bambi II was a prequel.

Obviously you missed the entire point of my statement.

My mention of Bambi II and Pocahontas II was to draw a comparison to the cheaply-made, insultingly-bad sequels to the original films. Technically speaking, any follow-up to a narrative whether or not it takes place chronologically before, after, or during, is a sequel. And incidentally, technically Bambi II would be a "mid-quel" since it takes place in the middle of the original film.

As for the earlier statement.

I agree to an extent that Square Enix should be obligated to show fans what happened after the story of the original. However, having seen Advent Children, I highly question how anyone could be satisfied with Advent Children as the continuing adventures of the FF7 gang. The plot of Advent Children is just utterly silly and ridiculous. Take a look at sequels like X-Men 2, Spider-man 2, The Two Towers, The Empire Strikes Back, The Godfather Part II, and all the sequels that are not only either as good if not better than the original film, but also took the plot and characters into new places. As a sequel, Advent Children doesn't even come close to being able to hold a light to the second Pokemon movie or the latter two Matrix movies.

So I guess that's what bothers me about Advent Children. Yes, I do believe that a great sequel can be made from FF7. But Advent Children isn't it. If Square is going to revisit FF7 and give me the rest of the story, I want them to give me something that matches or surpasses the original in scale, scope, and quality. A truly great sequel is a step forward, not a step backwards. The best part of Advent Children is that opening sequence that replicates the epilogue of FF7. The rest of Advent Children is just a mess that awkwardly tries to tie in visual eyecandy, everyone's favorite character (including ones which were dead and should have remained dead), in an attempt to kiss ass: in short, a collection of FF panty shots.

Now there's nothing wrong with a movie like Advent Children. There are plenty of bad films that I like for silly reasons. There's nothing wrong with enjoying Advent Children for the sheer thrill of seeing the characters you loved on the big screen. There's nothing wrong with liking a bad film just because you are amazed at the special effects.

What is wrong is trying to convince yourself and others that such a film is great. The hordes of people who are convinced that this film is great and will go to lengths to prove it just convince me that most FF fans have been so desperate that they have lost their ability to recognize bad shit when they see it. For god sake, at least Star Trek and Star Wars fans have the dignity to admit when their genres are going wrong.

I was disappointed enough to see that Square has now resorted to mining their old games instead of focusing on creating new games. It is important to remember that Square got where it was moving forward, not looking backwards. What disappoints me more is that there are so many fans that are so willing to buy into Square's new direction.

There's nowhere I can't reach.